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Reply #270 on: June 30, 2011, 02:05:35 pm
Wow so donating is pretty much pointless? No offense but at least on other servers you get some in game cash, or a car, or SOMETHING for it. But nothing at all here? BS.....



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Reply #271 on: June 30, 2011, 02:09:17 pm
Hey, what do you get if you donate to organizations such as charities or the National Health Service? Nothing. This is because it's a Donation.



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Reply #272 on: June 30, 2011, 02:16:05 pm
You are getting the possibility to continue playing what should be your favorite community. The donations help with the owners own funds to keep financing the community.



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Reply #273 on: June 30, 2011, 02:29:20 pm
Wow so donating is pretty much pointless? No offense but at least on other servers you get some in game cash, or a car, or SOMETHING for it. But nothing at all here? BS.....

First learn what DONATIONS mean... On other servers you do buy car for real life money, and that is not a donation... Now THAT is a BS...
Nothing all here? Yeah nothing, we do not demand from you any money to buy a car... Wanna car - go and get it...

I actually support those servers... Cos if people are idiots to spend their money on a stuff which they can get for free on other servers it is better for our server... Minus several idiots who are lazy that cannot play the game and just buy accesses setting the prioritet in level gains then in getting fun from playing with other guys...

So we do win from both sides - owners and players... Having fun and friendship...

You found paradise in Argonath. You had a good game, you made good friends. The admins protected you and there were courts of law. So you didn't need a friend like me. Now you come and say "Aragorn, give me justice." But you don't ask with respect.


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Reply #274 on: June 30, 2011, 03:04:22 pm
First learn what DONATIONS mean... On other servers you do buy car for real life money, and that is not a donation... Now THAT is a BS...
Nothing all here? Yeah nothing, we do not demand from you any money to buy a car... Wanna car - go and get it...

I actually support those servers... Cos if people are idiots to spend their money on a stuff which they can get for free on other servers it is better for our server... Minus several idiots who are lazy that cannot play the game and just buy accesses setting the prioritet in level gains then in getting fun from playing with other guys...

So we do win from both sides - owners and players... Having fun and friendship...

  Whoa dude I meant no disrespect, dont get all upset. And yes, on other servers I have bought lots of cars and houses with real life money. Some people donate shit tons of money every week. All I was saying was there is simply no true motivation for people to donate here, and if maybe there were some kind of in game reward, even if it was small... people would be more inclined to donate.
   
  Im not sure exactly what currency you are using but we will use USD for example, for every 10$ USD donated, you get 50k IG cash. Thats really not alot for the money, but people with money would be willing to donate 100$ USD just to get 500k... constantly. If 10 players did this (which they would, and fast ) thats $1000 for the server. This would make the server lots of money considering the enormous base of players. I didnt mean to offend, just was suggesting a small reward.

  I also realize this may breach the Argonath Vision as Gandalf has posted in the sense that all players are to be treated equally and none have any kind of status over another... but its not really any kind of status being given. Its simply a "thank you" and not asking for special treatment.



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Reply #275 on: June 30, 2011, 03:12:30 pm
Please, learn the definition of the word DONATION.

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contribution: a voluntary gift (as of money or service or ideas) made to some worthwhile cause

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A gift or disposition of property, money, or a service for which no payment, or an inadequate payment is received.



. All I was saying was there is simply no true motivation for people to donate here, and if maybe there were some kind of in game reward, even if it was small... people would be more inclined to donate.

The motivation is supporting a great, stable and active community with friends, fun and enjoyment.

Read this: http://club.argonathrpg.com lots of people do donate.

Quote from: Argonath vision
Argonath does not offer privileges against payment. The equal status prohibits any possibility of payment for extra possibilities, rights or money in game.

I suggest you read this thread, http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=38482.msg473637#msg473637 it will explain things much better.




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Reply #276 on: June 30, 2011, 03:15:24 pm

I suggest you read this thread, http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=38482.msg473637#msg473637 it will explain things much better.

Skimming over posts I see.... I have already read that, and mentioned it.

I also realize this may breach the Argonath Vision as Gandalf has posted



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Reply #277 on: June 30, 2011, 03:17:11 pm
You edited your post while I was posting, well done.



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Reply #278 on: June 30, 2011, 03:22:19 pm
Quote from: Trollface on Today at 03:04:22 pm
Quote from: Reece. on Today at 03:12:30 pm

Looks to be a bit of a time difference to me, but who knows? Maybe it took you a while to make your post when I was writing that in. Anyways back on the subject of
donations....



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Reply #279 on: June 30, 2011, 03:25:59 pm
The time when you post something and when it is edited are two different things, the time when posted never changes...

But that is edited in after I posted.

But any way, if you want something in return for your money, you will get something, the satisfaction that you have helped a community stay alive.

Argonath has never given any form of reward for donations and it never will, but donations and advertisements are what keeps the community alive.



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Reply #280 on: June 30, 2011, 03:31:40 pm
But that is edited in after I posted.
No, its not.

And I dont care if the suggestion is liked, accepted, or crammed up a homeless guys ass. Was just making an idea.



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Reply #281 on: June 30, 2011, 03:48:35 pm
Im not sure exactly what currency you are using but we will use USD for example, for every 10$ USD donated, you get 50k IG cash. Thats really not alot for the money, but people with money would be willing to donate 100$ USD just to get 500k... constantly. If 10 players did this (which they would, and fast ) thats $1000 for the server. This would make the server lots of money considering the enormous base of players. I didnt mean to offend, just was suggesting a small reward.

They are fooling you calling it "donations"... And you ate that shit...
I again recommend you to learn what word "donation" means... Exactly "no motivation"...

Right only OUR server is running on donations... All others do sell ingame stuff which means in commercial purposes... Probably they use word "donations" not to attract people's attention that they actually do sell an air... And people can get the same stuff for free on other servers...

You found paradise in Argonath. You had a good game, you made good friends. The admins protected you and there were courts of law. So you didn't need a friend like me. Now you come and say "Aragorn, give me justice." But you don't ask with respect.


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Reply #282 on: June 30, 2011, 03:54:39 pm
On other server people are selling virtual money for rel life cash. the reason they call it donation is to evade taxes, as otherwise they wold have to report it as income.
You want to be so stupid as to throw your money on something that is worthless tomorrow if they decide to ban you or close the server ? Go ahead. And if you get banned you might even try to sue them for not delivering the service they sold to you, or report them for tax evasion.

If we are going to sell something, you will get something for it and not some byetes in your account.
Yes our donation do not bring in a lot, but we are not robbing underage people by giving them nothing and calling it cash or houses etc.

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Reply #283 on: June 30, 2011, 03:56:54 pm
On other server people are selling virtual money for rel life cash. the reason they call it donation is to evade taxes, as otherwise they wold have to report it as income.

Yeah I was writing it but decided to remove... Cos then I had to explain that if servers will be reported to tax office they will have to pay taxes anyways, does not matter how do they call their income - donations or not...

Cos it simply does not qualified as donations...

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You want to be so stupid as to throw your money on something that is worthless tomorrow if they decide to ban you or close the server ? Go ahead. And if you get banned you might even try to sue them for not delivering the service they sold to you, or report them for tax evasion.

aw, cmon, they will just pay money to be unbanned... There is also other way more simple: you just buy admins rights and no shit can tell you anything...  :rofl:
Bought admins rights, bought houses, all vehicles... And what to do now? Correct - to f*ck all those who did not by admins rights... The one "normal" fun...

You think where from came all those OOC/IC shits? From being bored...

You found paradise in Argonath. You had a good game, you made good friends. The admins protected you and there were courts of law. So you didn't need a friend like me. Now you come and say "Aragorn, give me justice." But you don't ask with respect.


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Reply #284 on: June 30, 2011, 03:58:50 pm
Right only OUR server is running on donations... All others do sell ingame stuff which means in commercial purposes... Probably they use word "donations" not to attract people's attention that they actually do sell an air... And people can get the same stuff for free on other servers...

If we are going to sell something, you will get something for it and not some byetes in your account.
Yes our donation do not bring in a lot, but we are not robbing underage people by giving them nothing and calling it cash or houses etc.

This.

Ideas belong here.


But that is edited in after I posted.

No, its not.

when I was writing that in.

You said here that you did.

But perhaps I miss-read, but I'm fairly sure, when I started typing, it wasn't there.

But giving something in exchange for money is not a donation and saying it is is fraud, tax evasion and illegal.



 


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