Donations

[Melvin]

Yea, Ron pwned me.

But i dont want to give someone like 3 lolly's.
We will discuss it soon

[smey]

Okay guys, I want to start a action to collect more money for ArgonathRPG.
I heard some time ago from Gandalf that people wont donate. And they hardly make it. He also couldn't garantee that Argonath will keep existing.
I am looking for some serious people aged above 16 years who want to help me and start a team.

Our task is to make people donate and create something where they will donate for.

You can apply to me with a forum PM

- Signed

[AV]Melvin

Argonath RPG is free for all, and this will not change.

The only thing that donations will do is contribute to the cost of running our servers and websites. We will use donations only for continuing and expanding Argonath RPG. This we can and will do without donations. We offer the possibility upon request of players, and for no other reason.

Whats the point in making a group? Are you guys gonna bake cookies or so?

[Melvin]

No just spreading idea´s with each other and then start a project.

[Gird3r]

I have to be 18 before I can do any internet shopping and alike at all.
If I could fill Paypal by sms, I would have donated atleast 200 kr each month a long time ago (when I could do it).

[Gimli]

You only have to be 18 officially...

[Bianconeri]

:P indeed CDA,
i got paypal myself also, i registered it 5 days, need to confirm it though
they will donate money to you for free 

the thing is im 18 in 2 months,
and some are maybe 14, so chance of being busted is higher

i advise not to make paypal to do such things

[Rusty]

What's the harm really? I've been buying stuff from Ebay since i was 16...

[Nexxt]

It's kinda simple, about give them something more.
If you pay, then you can enjoy longer from the Argonath Services.

I want to donate, but I don't have PayPal

[Aksel]

I purchases clothes from china every month 0_o

[TheRock]

Guys, why dont you add packs like

if someones donate 5$ irl, then he gets about 5.000 Argonathian$ ???
10$ - 10k
15$ - 15k
20$ - 20k
25$ - 25k

and so on till a limit, or add packages for 50$ donations and up :P

I will personally donate some soon enough

[Proxan]

Guys, why dont you add packs like

if someones donate 5$ irl, then he gets about 5.000 Argonathian$ ???
10$ - 10k
15$ - 15k
20$ - 20k
25$ - 25k

and so on till a limit, or add packages for 50$ donations and up :P

I will personally donate some soon enough

That calls selling...

[Nexxt]

Proxan, who cares?
It's money :P.
If people want 1M ingame, they are rich

[Chuck_Norris]

I honestly have my doubts about people who post here ...

First of all i'd like to state that this topic shouldn't go offtopic for people who actually are going to donate.
I hear alot people saying : i wan't to donate but i don't got paypall

Seriously guys whats the good thing of saying it here?

Think about it, please don't go offtopic here

[FrozenThrone]

What's the harm really? I've been buying stuff from Ebay since i was 16...

Im 13 and I have a paypal account 
Dont have much though
Rusty is right.

[spartan1178]

Why do people think that people whom donate should earn some reward or prize for doing so?

According to Princeton University:

donation - contribution: a voluntary gift (as of money or service or ideas) made to some worthwhile cause
donation - contribution: act of giving in common with others for a common purpose especially to a charity

According to the University of Alberta Canada:

A gift or contribution to a charity or public institution without conditions and/or restrictions. The donation is voluntary and there is no direct benefit to the donor in return.

You CHOOSE to give the donation, it is not a pay service, it's a DONATION! And by this official definition people whom post valid, meaningful ideas in the ideas sections of the forums are, technically, donating to the community as a whole by providing input and just being active with the Argonath community. You should not expect any reward, nor ask for one. It is all up to you, is it not? Are the owners of Argonath hacking into your IP, getting bank accounts, and TAKING the money? Hell NO!

As for the users whom can't legally have a Pay-pal account, please keep in mind that using any false information can be fully taken as "doctoring" identification documents and carry a VERY strict punishment under international law. If they figure it out, they will seize the account and hold all money in it for a period of time, in this time they will look into all the account's activities and make sure nothing has been illegally done other then violating their terms of agreements (the little "I Agree" button that you can care less if it means anything). If they suspect fraud or anything else, you could be in for a felony case. However, if you don't illegally transfer money or transfer any money that isn't legally yours, they will most likely return the funds back to you, but it's best to hope that you never hear from them after the notification of account seizure again. Best to just try to use another account, such as giving money to a relative and having them transfer the money from their account. If you use one of those internet money making schemes, that money could be illegally gained, because you have to be over 18 to legally recive the money, meaning the money itself could be subject to seizure. Now, this COULD happen, and Pay-pal could really care little about this, and unless you actually are using some drug money or big time money laundering, they will just send a nasty e-mail with a bunch of " " faces in it. I have a Pay-pal account, and legally I can't. I only set it up for future reference, but still.  

If the owners of Argonath wanted to sell in-game money, they can do that, thats their right, and it would still be a choice of the player. Now, is that fair to all the players? Maybe, maybe not. But the point is that it is a D-O-N-A-T-I-O-N and should rightfully reap no reward other then knowing that that money is going to a good cause.