Hydras & Hunters etc.

[Vince]

I expected it to get removed. I was expecting to be fired as soon as I started last night. It wasn't even a shock to me. Don't act all hard and powerful. I had the balls to stand up to you and Hank, I did even have to asskiss my way anywhere. And I know for a fact, you all hated me for it.


As for ARPD hierachy...you do not go messing with other ARPD Command staff's profiles. I expect those forum rights to be set back by tommorrow morning.

Lol, learn to read your PMs...

Also, if we "hated you" so much why did we decided to make you SWAT Commander for SFPD? Did we have other options? Yes. Did we decide to give you a chance? Yes. Did Pancher want you, I give you a chance, and Hank agree to have you as SFPD SWAT commander? Yes... and you can even have Gandalf check that if you'd like buddy.

[Dave]

Lol, learn to read your PMs...

Also, if we "hated you" so much why did we decided to make you SWAT Commander for SFPD? Did we have other options? Yes. Did we decide to give you a chance? Yes. Did Pancher want you, I give you a chance, and Hank agree to have you as SFPD SWAT commander? Yes... and you can even have Gandalf check that if you'd like buddy.

And from my ARPD forum PM to you seeing as you refuse to listen:

An accident? Funny thing is, I removed my SAPD rights an hour before you even touched my profile. Do not lie to me Vince. Set the rights back now, or I will get someone of a higher power involved.

[Leon.]

SAPD fighting. I love this. 

[Jimmy_Bowling]

Righht.... we lost 2 good officers well thats FUCKING GREAT  :flame: :flame: :flame: :flame: :girl: :alert" :alert"


 :ps: DAMN

[Meepy]

Righht.... we lost 2 good officers well thats f**kING GREAT  :flame: :flame: :flame: :flame: :girl: :alert" :alert"


 :ps: DAMN

Maybe if they can set the regulation's back, SAPD will be better.

[Hess]

Why the hell should everyone else (cops) be disadvantaged with being limited to vehicles while those who can use hydras/hunters gain even more advantages?

I see more people complaining about the use of hydras/hunters than those who are defending them. And most people defending them are those who can use them anyway - they don't see from the perspective of everyone else.

Personally I'd like to see them removed. I liked the system before they were introduced, but I guess they won't be removed because the ones who have the ability to spawn them are the ones who make the decisions for SAPD anyway...


Edit: replied to this thinking it was the ARPD forum, so when I say "everyone else" I mean most cops.

[Meepy]

Why the hell should everyone else (cops) be disadvantaged with being limited to vehicles while those who can use hydras/hunters gain even more advantages?

I see more people complaining about the use of hydras/hunters than those who are defending them. And most people defending them are those who can use them anyway - they don't see from the perspective of everyone else.

Personally I'd like to see them removed. I liked the system before they were introduced, but I guess they won't be removed because the ones who have the ability to spawn them are the ones who make the decisions for SAPD anyway...

I would also. But what can we do? Nothing we aren't the high in command. It won't go back cause only they get too decide. Also, yes exactly half of SAPD members also don't agree with this Hydra/hunter thing, also cop cars and all that. And neither do I.

[JDC]

What the SAPD needs is stronger and better leadership. If you look at the FBI, the people who make decisions are accomplished and respected leaders in their own right, and I'm proud to say one of them is my mentor.

[[NP]Monte Montague]

What the SAPD needs is stronger and better leadership. If you look at the FBI, the people who make decisions are accomplished and respected leaders in their own right, and I'm proud to say one of them is my mentor.

For once in this topic I have to agree with JDC.



Hank, Vince get out of my thread, this thread was not made to limit freedom of speach, it is an open discussion, if you're going to fire Dave for insubordination (which is false) or w,e shit reason remember what goes around comes around.

Dave like any other SAPD member has the right to say his part, if you do not like, it tough, this is Argonath RPG, not N.Korea.


Argonath needs CBF back, he is the only good leader. Everyone else just fails in comparison.

I'm sorry Hank, but I watched for months and you accomplished nothing good apart from recently regarding the cops being limited only to police vehicles-  which drastically reduced the amount of reckless drivers, but then you go and suspend that rule due to your inferior ranking officers saying it presents a disadvantage, although you would be able to fix that by reminding them of the buffaloes and possibly adding some [SAPD] infernus's.



What will it be? You give-up this controversial, un needed and cursed hydras (or at-least,) hunter or you continue to wallow in your own mess? 
I doubt any of your realised what you had until it was gone - your chief, CBF.


SWAT has always been inactive / worthless compared to ordinary cops, this is true, and I've said this before , months , a year maybe, most SWAT have grown to hate me for thinking this, but still. It's true, and yet ordinary cops (freecops especially) are treated like dirt.


I was 3 days in the game, I became a cop, something happened with a civilian who was driving recklessly, I pulled him over and did the usual checks, talked etc, I then told him to go. Then this Dark blue topcop came along and said "why did you let him go", I told him he was given a warning, then that Dark blue cop went loco. I said, no I'm not about to give him a ticket if I can give him a warning, he was new like me. So, then I get suspected and dragged to DPD, where I end up meeting some officers, all dark blue SGTS  / Lt's ass kissers etc. There is this man (flameman), who has no clue whatsoever regarding this situaton, he begins to act all tough and asks me what I'm doing. I told him. He then makes up some stuff saying I do not respect my higher ranks, then he says speak to the chief, Pancher comes along and i have to tell him everything. I spent 4 hours there, then he said after 30 or so minutes "I have to go", I said ok. Then he left... Flameman came back in, then after a heated exchange of me sayin I will not follow orders that are 1 il-legal, 2 just plane lack common sense. I get cop-banned. Wow, a brand new cop, cop banned for not following orders or speaking up to his apparent superiors (which was wrong, I was a freecop, but w.e). From that day on, I was weary of rubbish, I eventually became FBI to combat against these so called cops who would just bully new cops. I had fun in FBI, it was very different to SAPD, there was compassion for suspects, and even when speaking to new cops, then, not how SAPD treats them and say they are probably abusers.  I only realised there was good in SAPD when I met CBF, he was the only one who restored any faith in Argonath for me.  You can say a lot of shit, even blame it on the officer named above, but what ever you do, it will always exist, it's clear without proper leaders SAPD and SWAT will fall into the pits of hell.

[Dave]

Too late, i'm already out of SAPD.

And for once in my life, I agree with you 100%, Curse.

[Syn]

For once in this topic I have to agree with JDC.



Hank, Vince get out of my thread, this thread was not made to limit freedom of speach, it is an open discussion, if you're going to fire Dave for insubordination (which is false) or w,e shit reason remember what goes around comes around.

Dave like any other SAPD member has the right to say his part, if you do not like, it tough, this is Argonath RPG, not N.Korea.


Argonath needs CBF back, he is the only good leader. Everyone else just fails in comparison.

I'm sorry Hank, but I watched for months and you accomplished nothing good apart from recently regarding the cops being limited only to police vehicles-  which drastically reduced the amount of reckless drivers, but then you go and suspend that rule due to your inferior ranking officers saying it presents a disadvantage, although you would be able to fix that by reminding them of the buffaloes and possibly adding some [SAPD] infernus's.



What will it be? You give-up this controversial, un needed and cursed hydras (or at-least,) hunter or you continue to wallow in your own mess? 
I doubt any of your realised what you had until it was gone - your chief, CBF.


SWAT has always been inactive / worthless compared to ordinary cops, this is true, and I've said this before , months , a year maybe, most SWAT have grown to hate me for thinking this, but still. It's true, and yet ordinary cops (freecops especially) are disregarded.

Couldnt agree more.

[Roman]

Letting them shoot at suspects who driving cars, is the same shit on letting suspects cop hunt.

[[NP]Monte Montague]

Too late, i'm already out of SAPD.

And for once in my life, I agree with you 100%, Curse.

Funny that, I have always agreed with you, well at least most of the time, although I do not post usually giving a damn, with respect to what people have to say, other then those the text is targeted at.

A lot of SAPD officers have talked to me, ingame, in cB, in MSN, in forums regarding everything.
I am actually angry right now and my whole back tingles in frustration.

I would not be surprised if FBI would come in now and take control of SAPD, investigate all the top senior officers for corruption (even the good ones, just to make sure), to at-least restore its weak reputation ( in a big RP way ), but then and again a lot of people (high ranked and kiss ups) will be annoyed, and it'd not look good for the owners that there is this stuff.

I want to bring focus back to my post above, Hank, vince please read and worship it.

[EliteTerm]

What has just happened here..?

[[NP]Monte Montague]

What has just happened here..?

Have you not noticed a thing ? The whole of the time I've been here it's been the same, on and off.

It's never really about the suspects, it's never really about the moaning, it's always about the stability of Argonath.