Homosexuality

[Emre]

* Gregersen wonders.. Why SA:MP General for this topic? Explanation???

* Emre  uses wizard power :

It's because it happened at SA:MP?  :conf:

[Cero]

I was witness to someone saying something very offensive about homosexuals, a admin immediately said LOL in all caps in main chat, I reported the guy who said it and the same admin punished him.  :roll:

[Emre]

Son, I am disappoint.

Ohai


Cero,when did that happen?

[Jingle]

Please continue making these threads, I'm truly amused.

[Jamal]

If you try to confront an admin about them you get banned.  thats Why no one wants to call them out on it. Lucky some people are smart enough to report it to the proper place. Not saying confronting the admin is a good IDea, but its not right how admins are able to ban people for provoking or flaming, or even moaning, or this case, and then not take a care for when they do it themself. I have tried to PM an admin about what he did bad one time, you know what happened? I was told to be quiet. If a player were to not answer and just say 'stop asking me' you can bet they would be banned.

tl;dr:  use [email protected] to report any admin breaking rules, even if its a little comment.

[Leon.]

I used to pretend to be homosexual for self amusement back in the day. People know I'm straight today, though. I didn't get such shitty treatment. The worst I got was the constant bombardment of "you're gay," which I can see how the ignorance would be so annoying to a homosexual person, as they are clearly and genuinely homosexual.

This is kind of exaggerating it, to be honest.

[Oliver]

I am homosexual and am deeply offended by people using incredibly offensive words I do not care for.

[Leon.]

I am homosexual and am deeply offended by people using incredibly offensive words I do not care for.

Thread.

[Max.]

* Gregersen wonders.. Why SA:MP General for this topic? Explanation???

Because i thought it would be good for people to be able to see and respond on this issue, there is alot of people that would be offended if i said something racist, but are happy to flame homosexuals, and this should be an issue we need to face, and what i saw last night in SAMP ArgoRPG (Which is why its here) was disgusting.

[Gird3r]

First let me start by saying, I myself am not homosexual.

I have noticed that people think that flaming homosexuals is appropriate behavior on Argonath. I have even seen an admin take part in it, yet if I was to say the word/abreviation "KKK" I would probably be banned for Racism.

How is this fair, people can flame and abuse homosexuals, all they want, and be egged on by some administrators, this is offensive to me, and I am honestly disgusted that people can be so inconsiderate towards others, as I have two homosexual friends whom know all too well the torment from others.

Report it to the email that is provided for reporting admins.
Along with screenshots and etc.

I cannot belivie people, and especially regulars, have failed to see that email.

And while you did not say all, implying that people on argonath is totaly ok with flaming homosexuality was an bold text of line to even mention. If i'm not mistaken, you are an admin on the stunt server. And I expect you to act like one. (That means, not start topics such as this one for example).

I myself and I do belivie that the rest of the administrations sure as hell is not okay with discriminating homosexual people or ridicule them. Especially not in the open. We all have opinions, some opinions better stay for yourself and not tell others.

However, most opinions still do not apply, for as an admin should strive to be as neutral as possible in situations.

Back on the case, I do hope you consider to report it to the mail next time something like this happens.


About confronting. The most common place for an confrotation happens in the open, that means right in main chat.
And for both players and admins, there is also an common reason why some choose to openly provoke another admin/player and confront them there, and that is simply to hope more catch on to gang up on that admin/player.
This is not an favorable option of confronting an admin/player, because you are only starting an fight, and dragging the server players along with it.

In short, we are not intrested in seeing fights in mainchat. Take it in private. What happens then, is between you two. (Still remember the email if things go way out of place)

And for some additional help, you might consider screenshooting the chatlogs ingame if for some reason you decide to confront an member of the administration team, to include with the email. However, DO so in PM, never ever in mainchat, that will only lead to eventual punishment. (And be polite, saying "fuck you racist bastard" or something of the impression is sure as hell not the right way, that counts for talking to players too)

I am almost neutral on this case, I do not agree with the homosexual way, however I do not flame them for that or discriminate them, not my power to judge them for what they want to do.

As for players who are doing this (flaming homosexuals, discriminating and talking shit) /report ID reason. Thank you, the case will be dealt with asap when we have time do so and got no other reports lying around that needs attention.

[Gird3r]

If you try to confront an admin about them you get banned.  thats Why no one wants to call them out on it.

Hello Jamal, you suprise me with this blackpainting of the admin team. IF you did your research correctly, you would see that the majority of confrotations mostly happen in the open, and not only that, also includes an sliver of flame and outright provoking.


Refer to what I told Syrus about for the advice if one should ever feel to confront an admin.

And yes, I did read that you also suggsested that one do so in PM, yet you blackpaint administration with this quote. Of course one can confront an admin. But not in mainchat or openly in forum like it was just another day (and I strongly point at doing that about players too. No fighting with players in mainchat and forums in the open, talking shit and provoke. Uneccessary).

[Caltson]

There is a topic relevant to this already in the politics board.

[Max.]

Gird3r, the reason i have posted this is to show that i am disgusted that people could be openly flaming homosexuals. and i think that an open discussion on this issue would be nice, as some people think that its ok to flame homosexuals, whereas racism is a major issue.

if i wished to report the players in teh game i would have sent an email, as i do not, i didnt....

[Oliver]

Gird3r, the reason i have posted this is to show that i am disgusted that people could be openly flaming homosexuals.

Why are you complaining about homos getting flamed if you're not one? The gay people I know don't even care if the word 'fgt' or 'gay' is used to describe something unpleasant. It'd be like me calling an arab a towelhead and an asian taking offense to that.

[Max.]

Why are you complaining about homos getting flamed if you're not one? The gay people I know don't even care if the word 'fgt' or 'gay' is used to describe something unpleasant. It'd be like me calling an arab a towelhead and an asian taking offense to that.

congratulations, your a racist bastard