Is the Argonath Vision blurred? Do we need glasses?

[Vince]

If you are handed everything without working for it everyone will have everything, hence everyone will soon be bored.

Look at it this way. Back in 2008 you would not 'want' to play as a freecop unless you were just going to be a cop for a little amount of time. If you were aiming to be a cop 24/7 you applied for the SAPD. In the SAPD you get trained for a period of time, and if passed you are rewarded with becoming an officer. With this right you now had a dark blue name whenver on duty, and 100 UZI rounds for taking out suspect tires.

Freecops didn't get the dark blue names.

Freecops didn't get the uzi.

Freecops applied for the SAPD.

Freecops made (and still make) what the SAPD is now.

Yet everyone claims that 'before' or 'back then' was better than it is now, and wish we could all go back in time.. yet ridiculous topics such as this are being made.

People speaking like this and constantly wanting more and more and more without doing or working for anything + wanting Argonath to be like it was in the past where people concentrated more on having fun in DIFFERENT FORMS = ?



You do the math.

[Deam]

What about mixing SAPD and SWAT dutys?

For example...today action. Was pulled over for speeding. Officer introduced theirselves as SAPD officers. But was driving SWAT car.
They didn't doubt that they were not on SWAT duty. If it's allowed, it's bullshit.

[[NP]Monte Montague]

If you are handed everything without working for it everyone will have everything, hence everyone will soon be bored.

Look at it this way. Back in 2008 you would not 'want' to play as a freecop unless you were just going to be a cop for a little amount of time. If you were aiming to be a cop 24/7 you applied for the SAPD. In the SAPD you get trained for a period of time, and if passed you are rewarded with becoming an officer. With this right you now had a dark blue name whenver on duty, and 100 UZI rounds for taking out suspect tires.

Freecops didn't get the dark blue names.

Freecops didn't get the uzi.

Freecops applied for the SAPD.

Freecops made (and still make) what the SAPD is now.

Yet everyone claims that 'before' or 'back then' was better than it is now, and wish we could all go back in time.. yet ridiculous topics such as this are being made.

People speaking like this and constantly wanting more and more and more without doing or working for anything + wanting Argonath to be like it was in the past where people concentrated more on having fun in DIFFERENT FORMS = ?



You do the math.

No your post is ridiculous.
And FYI, I am not as OLD (should it f**king matter?) to have noticed what you are talking about (and even if I did I'm sure it'd be rubbish anyway). Clear disrespect to Freecops and newer people.


People did not want to be SAPD, that's why the names where changed, no? Multiple long serving SAPD members (Some with high rank) said repeatedly to me at-least in MSN / PM about how no one wanted to become SAPD anymore.
People should be encouraged to join not by being given an advantage, that's wrong, that's corruption.

[Kizzu]

If you are handed everything without working for it everyone will have everything, hence everyone will soon be bored.

Look at it this way. Back in 2008 you would not 'want' to play as a freecop unless you were just going to be a cop for a little amount of time. If you were aiming to be a cop 24/7 you applied for the SAPD. In the SAPD you get trained for a period of time, and if passed you are rewarded with becoming an officer. With this right you now had a dark blue name whenver on duty, and 100 UZI rounds for taking out suspect tires.

Freecops didn't get the dark blue names.

Freecops didn't get the uzi.

Freecops applied for the SAPD.

Freecops made (and still make) what the SAPD is now.

Yet everyone claims that 'before' or 'back then' was better than it is now, and wish we could all go back in time.. yet ridiculous topics such as this are being made.

People speaking like this and constantly wanting more and more and more without doing or working for anything + wanting Argonath to be like it was in the past where people concentrated more on having fun in DIFFERENT FORMS = ?



You do the math.

So Basically what you're saying is that the officers that YOU and your collegues train to be SAPD officers are there not to be apart of the group spirit , the group work or the pride on saying they are SAPD officers , the officers that you and your colleges train are joining SAPD and training to have a DARK BLUE NAME and BETTER GUNS ,  that explains why there are so much SAPD OFFICERS non RPing and breaking SAPD Procedures and Laws.Basically what you're saying is that the SAPD doesn't have self-esteem.In conclusion the SAPD loses their moral to all the fellow citzens of San Andreas and that way you will lose many points to all crime familys because when people join Crime Familys , Groups or Mafias they dont get better guns , or a different color name , they stay for fellow companion and the group spirit and they never give up.

Regards

Kizzu Araatus

[Murt]

So Basically what you're saying is that the officers that YOU and your collegues train to be SAPD officers are there not to be apart of the group spirit , the group work or the pride on saying they are SAPD officers , the officers that you and your colleges train are joining SAPD and training to have a DARK BLUE NAME and BETTER GUNS ,  that explains why there are so much SAPD OFFICERS non RPing and breaking SAPD Procedures and Laws.Basically what you're saying is that the SAPD doesn't have self-esteem.In conclusion the SAPD loses their moral to all the fellow citzens of San Andreas and that way you will lose many points to all crime familys because when people join Crime Familys , Groups or Mafias they dont get better guns , or a different color name , they stay for fellow companion and the group spirit and they never give up.

Regards

Kizzu Araatus

Yes indeed Kizzu.

[Julio.]

No Offence meant to anyone.

Why the fuck has this turned into a Cops vs Criminals argument again?

We have had millions of arguments, they all result in warns, and a topic lock.

Lets try to keep this topic open...

Julio

[Kizzu]

No Offence meant to anyone.

Why the f**k has this turned into a Cops vs Criminals argument again?

We have had millions of arguments, they all result in warns, and a topic lock.

Lets try to keep this topic open...

Julio

I was just saying tha by saying that SAPD lost it's "Karma"  :roll:

[Kizzu]

@Curse You were the one who who started this topic and you are probably the one who most supports freecops rights so i think you should evocate a strike so that the governent can listen to us and our "demands". If you do so,you can count with me

[Oliver]

If you want a bloody SMG, apply to the god damn SAPD, is it so hard to get?

[Kizzu]

If you want a bloody SMG, apply to the god damn SAPD, is it so hard to get?

YES.

[Vice]

Yes all citizens of argonath.. corleones, straccies, araatus..etc can go and protest with using m4 and combat shotgun 


there are no citizens, because 90% of the times the people starts to evade, when they have to pay 200$ ticket...

And tell me who is crying for SAPD investigation always.... you, the citizens.. you make all differences between us and the ARPD cops. Curse, if you are still threated bad as ARPD cop.. maybe search the fault in yourself.

about colours and smg... i dont care, even i would agree to remove the smg from sapd officers and give combat shotgun+heavy weapons to freecops. I would LOVE to see the out come.  :hurray:

again an outcry topic whats totally nonsense and rediclious

[RafaDK]

Why is this not implemented in game?

For example:
ARPD Officers not being given a SMG, which SAPD people get, even if most cool SAPD officers give there SMG anyway, it's still shows that ARPD Officers are being treated as second tier (especially with the names etc...).

It's always annoyed me, not just the above example but other elements.

I've also seen many other contradictions of the Argonath vision, this should really be in Speakerbox.


Notes:
This is not a moan topic, go elsewhere.
Argonath Vision : http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=38482.0

ur able to apply for SAPD anytime.

[Vince]

No your post is ridiculous.
And FYI, I am not as OLD (should it f**king matter?) to have noticed what you are talking about (and even if I did I'm sure it'd be rubbish anyway). Clear disrespect to Freecops and newer people.


People did not want to be SAPD, that's why the names where changed, no? Multiple long serving SAPD members (Some with high rank) said repeatedly to me at-least in MSN / PM about how no one wanted to become SAPD anymore.
People should be encouraged to join not by being given an advantage, that's wrong, that's corruption.

If you insist so much that the reason SAPD has dark blue names, explain why we had them previously. You, during the time that you WEREN'T around. Maybe you can answer that, as you seem to know that what I said was complete rubbish despite the fact you weren't even around. Pathetic..

[SafetyMoose]

Curse and the bullshit that goes through his mind. I have an idea, lets give everyone admin rights so we are equal. Also lets give freecops access to hunter / hydra. i like this idea.

[BlackBird]

Freecops made (and still make) what the SAPD is now.

Yet everyone claims that 'before' or 'back then' was better than it is now, and wish we could all go back in time.. yet ridiculous topics such as this are being made.

People speaking like this and constantly wanting more and more and more without doing or working for anything + wanting Argonath to be like it was in the past where people concentrated more on having fun in DIFFERENT FORMS = ?

Written as though you've been around long enough to remember the "Old days" and what they were like.

Freecops only make SAPD what it is now because there scapegoats for anything SAPD does wrong
Officer 1: OHSHIT WE KILLED THE PRESIDENT!!!!
Officer 2: Not to worry we have the freecop to blame it on.
Clearly, they are what make the sapd what it is, thank you very much for clearing that up for us vince.

If you insist so much that the reason SAPD has dark blue names, explain why we had them previously. You, during the time that you WEREN'T around. Maybe you can answer that, as you seem to know that what I said was complete rubbish despite the fact you weren't even around. Pathetic..

Superiority complex "we're higher then you and want to show it"
Then again when the color were removed sapd just used /rank on everyone and still discriminated agaisnt freecops
Don't give me the bullshit line that you're fair with freecops (I've seen you on duty before and how you act).
And before RS3 we didn't have Dark Blue names except for the SWAT skin, ARPD was still around, but without the /rank command and "perks" it has now, everyone got the same weapons regardless of rank, if you wanted anything more you bought it.
Yes, your attitude in regards to attempting to represent the majority, and as a representation of a Argonath admin is, as you said, Pathetic.
I wonder how often your gonna show your bipolar disorder before people start realizing your not really the person behind the mask you put on to please people?

Curse and the bullshit that goes through his mind. I have an idea, lets give everyone admin rights so we are equal. Also lets give freecops access to hunter / hydra. i like this idea.

YES!!!!
Taken out of context.
I have an idea, let's remove everyones money, houses, property, admin rights, SAPD rank.