Is the Argonath Vision blurred? Do we need glasses?

[Pandalink]

If your a dangerous suspect then why would SWAT risk RPing with you if they might die? want to RP? /gu

If you're a cop then why would I risk RPing with you if I might get suspected and shot on the spot?

All you have admitted with this post is that whenever a cop uses /su they want to engage in a DM with the person they are suspecting, and does not want to roleplay at all. Oh, and also you've made a frank recommendation to never roleplay with cops, apparently.

[Rusty]

If you're a cop then why would I risk RPing with you if I might get suspected and shot on the spot?

He made a damn good point here.  :roll:

[Caltson]

If you're a cop then why would I risk RPing with you if I might get suspected and shot on the spot?

Why would a cop risk roleplaying with a civilian if they might get killed by their combat shotgun?

It's roleplay, it's all about taking risks. How bigger the risk, the more fun you probably have. Unless you decide to go pausing at GS9 all day long, I think the biggest satisfaction of roleplaying is having interaction with other people.

When i'm a suspect, mostly i approach the officers to give them a hard time dealing with me (Nothing with guns, Making it verbally harder)
If the officer solves the case in a good roleplay situation, i'm satisfied, and he will be aswell.
On the sidenote, Argonath isn't ALL about cops / criminals, i suppose you knew that already tough.

In most cases, if i get suspected, officers won't have a hard time chasing me, unless i really feel abused, then i'll start running. I'm not going to ask for 'unsuspect', unless i'm in the middle of something really important.

[Julio.]

Look, lets be honest.

All the SWAT wants to do is kill the suspect, not Roleplay.
Richard and a couple of other Marlens were in a Sultan when I had not joined it. I followed them, stalking them up Mt Chilliad.

SWAT was following.

Marlen jumped off the edge of Chilliad, Car exploded instantly, SWAT just wanted to kill someone, so they randomly suspected me for aiding and shot me where I stood even though I did /hail 1 and was typing /gu. I was unarmed.

Is that what SWAT is for? :o

[Caltson]

Look, lets be honest.

All the SWAT wants to do is kill the suspect, not Roleplay.
Richard and a couple of other Marlens were in a Sultan when I had not joined it. I followed them, stalking them up Mt Chilliad.

SWAT was following.

Marlen jumped off the edge of Chilliad, Car exploded instantly, SWAT just wanted to kill someone, so they randomly suspected me for aiding and shot me where I stood even though I did /hail 1 and was typing /gu. I was unarmed.

Is that what SWAT is for? :o

SWAT only comes after you if you did not cooperate with the SAPD officers. That means unless you give up, they'll use force.
In real life SWAT doesn't show up for giving you flowers and kindly ask you to surrender. They'll breach your door and hope that you don't get that same door slammed in your face. That's what SWAT is. They get called if the officer cannot deal with the suspect, Ex. Using weapons to kill officers, civilians, etc.

[Kenny.]

I'm the man who take part in police action. I'm criminal and I can see how structures works.

How does this work out?

I got screens how SWAT patroling the streets and doing traffic stops. Also, my borther is playing here as a cop. I often sit near him and see what happens.

If you have some evidence by all means show it, so everyone can see it and actions can be taken or are you going to live in the so-called "omg they abuse me" world. Its time you produced your evidence so we can determine how full of shit you are.

Some members of SWAT are non-rpers. They dont read /me or /em and just shooting, arresting you

We are called in to situations where you have just commited murder therfore we know you are armed and dangerous person. You will be told to surrender or drop your weapons but your too busy shiting your pants you do not realise the flooded text of officer telling you to give up but you decided to run and in the end none but you gets butt raped.

Therfore this brings more moaning and leads to accusations such as the above, hopefully next time you will learn not to run or be a rambo and start shooting.

(I'm talking about SWAT because it must be more sctricted and special group)

SWAT are not the only restricted law enforcement Agency on Argonath, but i can understand the substantial complaints about SWAT so your justing looking to add more?

Usually people who complain means they lost something. This means that you will only complain about a group which is effective, The none effective group are not seen although they could even be more advanced than SWAT in terms of restrictions.

All the SWAT wants to do is kill the suspect, not Roleplay.

Refer to what i said above in terms of not roleplaying.

Look, lets be honest.

All the SWAT wants to do is kill the suspect, not Roleplay.
Richard and a couple of other Marlens were in a Sultan when I had not joined it. I followed them, stalking them up Mt Chilliad.
SWAT was following.

You claim that we do not RP yet why kind of civilian follows wanted suspect being chased by SWAT? Usually in RP terms people do not go around and botthering heavily armed men wether be SWAT or Gangs.

So why were you following if you did not want to be suspected for either possibler aider or interfering in a police chase.

Marlen jumped off the edge of Chilliad, Car exploded instantly, SWAT just wanted to kill someone, so they randomly suspected me for aiding and shot me where I stood even though I did /hail 1 and was typing /gu. I was unarmed.

So you followed interupted a SWAT chase and gave up at the end?

Usually people who are following criminals who are wanted and being chased by SWAT are either 2 things

1) They are friends or family who want to aid the suspects
2) They are stupid and have lost their mind

You are clearly the second one as you just followed them and ended giving up which i see it has no point.

Is that what SWAT is for? :o

Is that wast Civilians are for?

[Julio.]

Kenny, what I DID was jump off the Mountain with my Motorbike, I fell off, bike landed at very bottom.

SWAT followed, got out car, and shot me dead.

I am the sort of guy that likes to see what happens at the end of a chase

[Kenny.]

Kenny, what I DID was jump off the Mountain with my Motorbike, I fell off, bike landed at very bottom.

What vechiles were SWAT in? because i can guarantee you, you could hop in your bike and drive off faster than SWAT jumps off the mountain (considering they did not blow up) get out of the car and start shooting at you.

I am the sort of guy that likes to see what happens at the end of a chase

Oh i see, you one of them SWAT-fan boys, well i got a few suggestions for you.

When in a situation like this, get a helicopter and fly a bit high and watch from the skies. This is just my opinion here but if you would like expert advise on how to do such things then go pop in SAN (San Andreas News) building and ask them advice as they have field experince.

[Ben.]

Chaps, sorry to ruin your old man debate, but I have a suggestion   :poke:
Maybe...its a game! A game is made for fun, not for there to be a heated argument about what SWAT does and doesn't do.
Yes, SWAT can be brutal sometimes.
Yes, people do thing its funny to follow suspects, but do no think of coincidences.
And my point, who cares?! We're all here to have fun, without ruining someone elses fun, and at the moment, you are both ruining mine.
Please stop this pointless argument, all your points have probably been made in the past, it's nothing new, and frankly people are starting to get annoyed!


Back on-topic, about the Argo Vision! May the Pope bless Argo  :pop:

[Pandalink]

Why would a cop risk roleplaying with a civilian if they might get killed by their combat shotgun?

It's roleplay, it's all about taking risks.

Exactly.

All the SWAT wants to do is kill the suspect, not Roleplay.

Exactly, that was the point of SWAT and it always had been. They were a combat unit.

When you put SWAT, a total combat team, in the position of normal police as has been done recently, you just get something like the SRU was (a flippant buffalo death squad) with no interest in roleplaying.. a role that should be reserved for elite ground assaults.

[JDC]

And so the players once again complain about how Argonath is all ruined and full of non-RPers and similar shit.
 
But then, think of it.
Who made things that way?
 
For certain, it wasn't Gandalf and Aragorn.

[Deam]

If your a dangerous suspect then why would SWAT risk RPing with you if they might die? want to RP? /gu

Lol... And if you for example kidnap someone but SWAT cant see the gun in your arms and it looks like just meeting...?

[Deam]

Kenny, I got screens and I won't show it here, because it's not section for complains.

Also, I can add that when you're Corleone and you meet other corleones in troubles (suspected) and watching it on the distance, SWAT come and suspect you for aiding just because you're Corleone and was near others.

Kenny, why I'm not moaning about FBI then? About hydra? It's very effctive.

SWAT come to chase me while I'm even with 1 star and suspected for speeding. They just see message that I'm suspected and come.
Also, someone saw how Ben_Samiir was Rping? As I remember he always just driving his buffalo around LS and chasing criminals.
Kenny, You can RP, but on duty you're metagaming in /l and dont use /me and /em.
And I'm sure in your cb channel you can see some chat logs like "Corleone get suspected!!!... KILL HIM!!!"

So, some groups on Argonath can be non RP? Even Official groups?


SWAT who gave you permission to provoke me every time when I'm talking with someone about cops and shit?

[Altair_Carter]

If your a dangerous suspect then why would SWAT risk RPing with you if they might die? want to RP? /gu

you must fucking remember this is an RP server you're playing on.

[Jack White]

Kenny, I got screens and I won't show it here, because it's not section for complains.

Also, I can add that when you're Corleone and you meet other corleones in troubles (suspected) and watching it on the distance, SWAT come and suspect you for aiding just because you're Corleone and was near others.

Kenny, why I'm not moaning about FBI then? About hydra? It's very effctive.

SWAT come to chase me while I'm even with 1 star and suspected for speeding. They just see message that I'm suspected and come.
Also, someone saw how Ben_Samiir was Rping? As I remember he always just driving his buffalo around LS and chasing criminals.
Kenny, You can RP, but on duty you're metagaming in /l and dont use /me and /em.
And I'm sure in your cb channel you can see some chat logs like "Corleone get suspected!!!... KILL HIM!!!"

So, some groups on Argonath can be non RP? Even Official groups?


SWAT who gave you permission to provoke me every time when I'm talking with someone about cops and shit?

We are normally not in the same CB  :poke:
And seriously, what do you think? We see i.e 4 corleone shooting cops, and 2 corleones with cars looking at the shootout. Of course we think you are gonna aid....