Questioning before Punisments

[StrikeFreedom]

Without respect because of their previous mistakes

Admins barely get any respect now. Proof?:

ps; Jimmy_cuneo my nigga, polite madaf**kin admin unlike bluefox seriously dont get me started..

Each admin has a different way of dealing with situations. We are all from different waves and we were all trained differently. Common sense tells you this. Just grow the fuck up and deal with it. Stop bitching about how one admin does something you like, and another does something you don't. We have a complaint email for a reason - use it and stop crying like little girls. I am sick and tired of the shit administrators get, it's utterly ridiculous. We give our own fucking gameplay time to help you guys out and make the server a decent place to play on without 20 hackers running around. We get nothing for it yet you target us all the time for things, that most of the time, are your fucking problems.
Yeah, because a player is never wrong, it's always the admin....

[Gandalf]

u funny!!!!

Nope sorry StrikeFreedom, what his post is asking is that admins take consideration and question before action [Unless its extreme such as hacking or mass deathmatch.'

Example: Player1 shoots Player2. Player2 fights back and hits Player1, Player1 reports Player2 for DM. Admins comes and sees Player2 is assaulting Player1.

Then the problem. The admin punishes player 2 for DM, but really its self defense against Player1 who was the actual DMer.

And the admin is correct to punish player 2.

The thing is if you are going to fight back, there is no sense in reporting, as admins are disallowed to act directly on a report from a player. They must witness the situation, and if they see player 2 attacking player 2, chances are that he gets punished.

If admin have time, they can investigate a report by questioning the players. If they are having a high work load, they will take less time and punish faster. If you see lots of reports with not many admins, help them out by not trying to require them to explain every move.

[Aguila187]

Each admin has a different way of dealing with situations. We are all from different waves and we were all trained differently. Common sense tells you this. Just grow the f**k up and deal with it. Stop bad girling about how one admin does something you like, and another does something you don't. We have a complaint email for a reason - use it and stop crying like little girls. I am sick and tired of the shit administrators get, it's utterly ridiculous. We give our own f**king gameplay time to help you guys out and make the server a decent place to play on without 20 hackers running around. We get nothing for it yet you target us all the time for things, that most of the time, are your f**king problems.
Yeah, because a player is never wrong, it's always the admin....

lol you're mad, go away. No one is moaning here except you.
Surely admins are humans too. I don't omit that. Not everyone can manage 100 players alone. Its both hard and  a glorious mission, wasting your gameplay time to help other players. I do have respect for admins, more than everyone.
But if they can't control their anger and can't live under the stress of being an admin, I believe its best for the community to not stay as one.

It might look like it, but I can tell you that your perspective of it is definitely wrong.

Please tell me whats wrong with it so I can fix it.

[Ben.]

u funny!!!!

Nope sorry StrikeFreedom, what his post is asking is that admins take consideration and question before action [Unless its extreme such as hacking or mass deathmatch.'

Example: Player1 shoots Player2. Player2 fights back and hits Player1, Player1 reports Player2 for DM. Admins comes and sees Player2 is assaulting Player1.

Then the problem. The admin punishes player 2 for DM, but really its self defense against Player1 who was the actual DMer.

Lolz...I actually agree with this.
Gandalf, they are correct to punish player 2 for DMing or whatever, but it should be less harshly. If some guy IRL started punching you, you would call the cops, then defend yourself, yes?

I know this is a stupid example in a school, but anyway:
Bob1 starts punching Bob2, who then asks his friend to get a teacher. By the time the teacher gets back, Bob2 is defending himself by any means necessary, kicking, punching, and whatever else.
The teacher punishes Bob1 and Bob2.

^ This is how it goes at my school anyway. They do not take into account that Bob1 started it, and Bob2 was acting in self-defense.



Admins should be given respect, even if they make mistake. They were chosen for a reason, respect that. Any issues you have should go to [email protected].

[StrikeFreedom]

lol you're mad, go away. No one is moaning here except you.
Surely admins are humans too. I don't omit that. Not everyone can manage 100 players alone. Its both hard and  a glorious mission, wasting your gameplay time to help other players. I do have respect for admins, more than everyone.
But if they can't control their anger and can't live under the stress of being an admin, I believe its best for the community to not stay as one.

Of course, certainly you are the best person to decide that.
No-one knows what it is like to be an admin on Argonath until you have been one. You have no right to criticise our procedures or our team. Opinions like that shoul dbe kept to yourself. There are some on the team, including those higher than admins, who do not take players shitting on administration lightly...

[Emre]

So. Instead of punishing people, we should teleport them into a darkened room, tie them to a chair, shine a bright torch in their face and interrogate them? Get real. We don't have time to ask every reported player "OMG Y U DM IDXX????????????????"

THIS belongs to my signature as the "LOL of the century".

Also it shows,that you can't respect anothers thought / opinion = Wow,you're still an admin.You should be polite.

It's true,there are a few admins (The first ever who comes in my mind about that is Jimmy Cuneo now. ) who have screwed around,on their keyboard,that automatically writes "/BAN" on your message,it happens too fast to let someone explain,or apologize (To lower the punishment or to show regret).At some point it sounds crazy ,but at some point it's true.




Oh yeah,Dave.You're not strict,you're blended.I'm sorry.

[StrikeFreedom]

Polite? I am polite to those who are polite to me.
You do not know me at all, so who the fuck are you to lecture me?

[Aguila187]

You have no right to criticise our procedures or our team.

who the f**k are you to lecture me?

Ok Tony Montana, we don't f**k with you sir, ok?

lol you're still mad boy, calm down.

[StrikeFreedom]

lol you're still mad boy, calm down.

Go back to /b/, troll.

[Emre]

Polite? I am polite to those who are polite to me.
You do not know me at all, so who the f**k are you to lecture me?

If i check the first posts of this topic,i clearly see that you started to go like "OMG I AM SARCASTIC I AM KOOL".So ; No,you clearly want to be polite to those,you randomly like.

Oh yeah i know you.Your name is David,you're an admin,you have issues with controlling your anger.
You never give others a chance to show what they think.But once YOU say something,they receive a warning / kick / ban / whatsoever for NOT listening to you.Don't you think this is weird?

Oh yeah,don't say "who the fuck" again,if you refer to me.


EDIT : Now he's trying to be an hero

[StrikeFreedom]

Lol. You guys make me laugh. I'll say it again then, who the f**k are you to lecture and question me?
Controlling anger? No. It's called cracking down on shitters who drag the community down.
I never said I was "kool". Do not make false accusations.
I have recieved kicks and warnings in the past and they did not bother me. I dealt with them the proper way and didn't spread shit about the admin on the forums or ingame.

Moderator Comment

No matter how much I agree with you, I have to tell you to calm down. - Gregersen

[TheRock]

u funny!!!!

Nope sorry StrikeFreedom, what his post is asking is that admins take consideration and question before action [Unless its extreme such as hacking or mass deathmatch.'

Example: Player1 shoots Player2. Player2 fights back and hits Player1, Player1 reports Player2 for DM. Admins comes and sees Player2 is assaulting Player1.

Then the problem. The admin punishes player 2 for DM, but really its self defense against Player1 who was the actual DMer.

Very usual, If I get an report from Player1, reporting Player2 for DMing, however when I spectate the situation, I see Player1, Insulting/Flaming/DMing Player2 who he just reported, He's gonna be punished for Invalid Report + Revegne Deathmatch..

In my view, such as the case of Yuri, Whenever I see a regular breaking a rule, I'll be harsh on him.
And in case, I know Gvardia does not pass from trial any random guy. So I guessed you have been an old guy here, and yes I was correct.

If there's a new player, making mistakes not-purposely, like suspecting for false reasons because he does not understand something then yes, I will freeze and talk to him, unlikely the way I will deal a new-registered who does RULE-BREAK purposely, or an regular player on the server.

Each admin works with his own way, We don't have to be 'copy-cats' or have the same attitude of the admins you love .
I personally hate trolls in game, which I love giving banana's to. And people who are old here and rule-break purposely, will just get harsh punishments.

[Emre]

Lol. You guys make me laugh. I'll say it again then, who the f**k are you to lecture and question me?

Actually,every citizen can question you,unless you dont live in your own fantasy world.

Controlling anger? No. It's called cracking down on shitters who drag the community down.
I never said I was "kool". Do not make false accusations.

See?You say "crack down" and "shitter".You get them out of the way,but you never help argonath mainly than being an admin.

I have recieved kicks and warnings in the past and they did not bother me. I dealt with them the proper way and didn't spread shit about the admin on the forums or ingame.

Yes,you learn out of mistakes you did with your kicks and warnings.You probably were fairly kicked.Stop acting like you're the only fair one in this world.There are still people who accept mistakes,go check the unban section!


EDIT : Rock,you have a point :o

[Aguila187]

Dave could you please stop with your disgusting and provoking hate messages? We are trying to have a peaceful chat here.

In my view, such as the case of Yuri, Whenever I see a regular breaking a rule, I'll be harsh on him.
And in case, I know Gvardia does not pass from trial any random guy. So I guessed you have been an old guy here, and yes I was correct.

If there's a new player, making mistakes not-purposely, like suspecting for false reasons because he does not understand something then yes, I will freeze and talk to him, unlikely the way I will deal a new-registered who does RULE-BREAK purposely, or an regular player on the server.

Thats a great way to work Rock, I like your style. Regulars obviously has more experience than newcomers and their punishments should be harsher IF they really did break a rule. You're a good example of admins with common sense, in my honest opinion.

[Dave]

See?You say "crack down" and "shitter".You get them out of the way,but you never help argonath mainly than being an admin.

I have helped Argonath more than what you have seen. You have hardly been on this community so do not judge someone 4 years your "elder". I have done alot for the community in the past, more than you could ever hope to do. The people from Pre-2007 know what I have done, and I'm not going to sit here and explain it to you.