Like you are in position to talk about 'dead groups'?
Many of the most active role-models out there these days are former Wilson members, it's a fact.
What does that have to do with anything I said?
Most of old Cems members are now police officers, admins and good roleplayers also.
I'm just telling theres no point to rebuild a gang that has fallen 3 times already, everyone knows it won't last it's just waste of effort...