Cop reward Reduced

[Aksel]

Precisely because they don't play as cops. Thus they don't get to make the same amount of cash cops do.

That's the risk of doing crimes.

Haha you don't need to tell me what to do, I have enough money. But what about you, how much money you got? I guess not much as you played once so we can't blame you for writing with no reason in our boards..

I have been playing for a long time now .

[Leonardo]

Not in the mood to read the whole topic but hate it when cops die but can come back and while criminals are gaining bounty cops will surely kill 'em and they will get big money. Not surprised ARPD friends reply like this lol.. Just as we on the EMP bs, so price of killing criminals should be lowered..

lol i won't even bother to reply to this as it simply doesn't adds nothing constructive to the topic at all.

You can roleplay to your hearts content, but its always going to end in either the cop killing the criminal, or the criminal killing the cop. There's jailing but that happens like 5% of the time. A cop is always going to need good fighting skills to take down criminals. It's their job. Either that or they just run around suspecting people

In most cases where we actually ROLEPLAYED properly instead of just going on the same boring thing of cop vs criminal hunting, it actually didn't ended in killing, but yes in a long and fun roleplay to everyone who took part on it. Fighting is the secondary part of the roleplay. For example, look at this case from a year ago:

Good evening officers, agents.

This afternoon a couple of men were on their way to try and murder Captain Leonardo after he went undercover and betrayed them.

We had officers and agents on the look out all over the city during the day but nothing came about until the captain recieved a warning that he was going to be killed.

We took immediate action in trying to get the captain to a safe location, I got Officer Driggz and Agent Marcus to meet up with me in a location in Little Haiti, looks like of there men followed us and found out the location, he demanded to speak to captain Leonardo, our officers refused and I got hold of a bullet proof and tinted window vehicle of which was used to get the captain out of that location and to the VCPD HQ.

We called all the officers back to the HQ and took the helicopter to the airport while Offficer Driggz patrolled the streets looking for the men.

We safely got the captain onto a flight to San Andreas where he will stay until further notice.

We don't have too much information on these men but what we know is they are from the criminal agencies TAC and EAF.

The federal agency along with cooperation with the VCPD try to find these men and interview them. As this could be a massive danger to all our officers in the streets. So I am now warning all of our officers and agents to be careful on patrols and 911 calls, always if possible take someone with you when attending a 911 call as it could be a trap.

Signed:
F.B.I. Director
Fabio Mendez

Took from VCPD Archive. This is a pure example of roleplay which didn't ended in a massive shootout and was actually good for both sides.

[Klaus]

In most cases where we actually ROLEPLAYED properly instead of just going on the same boring thing of cop vs criminal hunting, it actually didn't ended in killing, but yes in a long and fun roleplay to everyone who took part on it.

This is extremely rare. I don't have a clue about all your writing in your VCPD archive. You feel the need to hide that from everyone. From a normal players point of view, 90% of the time all cops do is kill criminals. Cops will kill suspected players and ask questions later. Criminals, such as me, don't take any chances anymore. We could try starting a roleplay but we'd end up getting shot. If there's going to fight, getting the first shot in is critical.

[Davron]

Why don't it be this way,
In order of ranks,
meaning
Free Cop Pay check
1 star [kIll $100 / Jail $200]
2 star [kill $200 / Jail 200]
e.t.c

VCPD Cadet paycheck
1 star [kill $200 / Jail $300]
2 star [Kill $300 / Jail $400]

VCPD Officer pay check
1 Star [kill $300 / Jail $400]
2 star [Kill $400 / Jail $500]

Senior Officer Pay Check
1 star [Kill $400 / Jail $500]
2 star [Kill $500 / Jail $ 600]

And it goes on and on.
VCPD gives out the ranks.And they should only be sertain spots if you know what i mean

[Aksel]

Why don't it be this way,
In order of ranks,
meaning
Free Cop Pay check
1 star [kIll $100 / Jail $200]
2 star [kill $200 / Jail 200]
e.t.c

VCPD Cadet paycheck
1 star [kill $200 / Jail $300]
2 star [Kill $300 / Jail $400]

VCPD Officer pay check
1 Star [kill $300 / Jail $400]
2 star [Kill $400 / Jail $500]

Senior Officer Pay Check
1 star [Kill $400 / Jail $500]
2 star [Kill $500 / Jail $ 600]

And it goes on and on.
VCPD gives out the ranks.And they should only be sertain spots if you know what i mean

Goes against the Argonath vision.

[~Legend~]

Klaus, as you seem to base how good a cop is on the number of people they can kill; and you seem to be comparing me against Marcus/Pyrus - I am not going to argue, I agree that they have skill when it comes to taking down criminals.

Just for your info I pwnt Pyrus today (no hard feelings) with a shotgun vs. M4, rpg etc...
I don't hold things like that as big deals, really - I as long is it's fun and wasn't just for the sake of it.



As for RP, I guess neither cops nor criminals get much of a chance to actually roleplay together - people seem to be following where the gun takes them.

The newer cops (freecops in particular) and the newer criminals learn naturally from the old ones. If the longtime criminals (or cops) imply that you should shoot at will, then that's what they will do as well.

[Drix]

Shit man SA:MP has 100 players per day and also cops gaining a good ammount of money, and lets not furget that criminals loose money and none suggests to do something against it.
That's how argonath rolls, cupple of EAF people wanna change it?

[Ave]

If you're going to talk about RP between cops and criminals - actually this almost doesn't exists. Just to mention

[Aksel]

If you're going to talk about RP between cops and criminals - actually this almost doesn't exists. Just to mention

Then do something about it. Take a look in the mirror.

[Klaus]

Legend, I have nothing against you and your one of the cops I trust more that your not just cop to kill criminals and get money. I just used you as an example of a cop who isn't as good in fighting because you came to mind first.

As for RP, I guess neither cops nor criminals get much of a chance to actually roleplay together - people seem to be following where the gun takes them.

If a cop is roleplaying with a suspect, all the cop wants to do is kill/jail the criminal at the end. Because of that the criminal will need to kill the cop. Yeah, we can try roleplaying, but 90% of the time the cop won't happily roleplay because lets face it, if your a cop you don't want to get abused. You wanna win and be the hero in the end. Its the same for the criminal. He deosn't want to happily roleplay getting abused and jailed. He'll want to kill the cop and be the winner.

If you're going to talk about RP between cops and criminals - actually this almost doesn't exists.

Your right, but thats because theres very little roleplay between these two groups where in the end both sides are happy. The last roleplay I remember where it was was the kidnap at the biker bar. The criminals died but we did get the ransom in the end.

[~Legend~]

If a cop is roleplaying with a suspect, all the cop wants to do is kill/jail the criminal at the end. Because of that the criminal will need to kill the cop. Yeah, we can try roleplaying, but 90% of the time the cop won't happily roleplay because lets face it, if your a cop you don't want to get abused. You wanna win and be the hero in the end. Its the same for the criminal. He deosn't want to happily roleplay getting abused and jailed. He'll want to kill the cop and be the winner.

Yea, it's true.

When either side decides shoots it pretty much ends all chance of a RP taking place. It'll be difficult to change people's minds on that, but I guess we'll just have to show the freecops and those newer to the "dark side" a little more about where roleplay can take you.

[Ave]

When either side decides shoots it pretty much ends all chance of a RP taking place. It'll be difficult to change people's minds on that, but I guess we'll just have to show the freecops and those newer to the "dark side" a little more about where roleplay can take you.

It's something mutual, something you gets born with - there's no bussiness in criminals co-operating with cops. Actually I'm happy to see someone's /c sur and go to jail but that's all we have when it comes to RP (I don't mind some veteran and trusted players who can roleplay even with a tree, but there's a lack of them).

Then do something about it. Take a look in the mirror.

Ok, bye

[Marcus]

The base of roleplaying is the imagination.
If you have some imagination, you can surely roleplay something fun and useful. But this will only happen if both parts want to roleplay. If one part wants to roleplay, and the other wants to shoot to kill, there'll be no fun roleplay at all, but it'll be a DMing contest. Let's imagine that the cop is killed. He'll respawn, and surely go after the criminal, trying to kill him. That's what it's done in the DM servers as well.
But, why not fix this thing and end up this discussion, trying to roleplay more? Everyone wins. I'm not talking to someone in specific nor I do want to offend someone, but I'm talking to everyone in general, because this seems the Cops vs Criminals server, as the way it is being discussed here.
I somehow agree on what Klaus said about criminal ending up shooting the cop or the reverse, but man... Before shooting someone, let there be roleplay.
Oh, and btw Neal - How much do you win by smuggling ? 500 $ ? That's shit, let's change it. And don't tell me you never smuggled.. I'm just telling this because of the "criminals vs cops" thing , this ain't about who wins more or whatever. It's fine as it is now, my it's my opinion, and I'm not talking as a person who is actually a cop, but as a regular, and player.

[Davron]

Err so wil lthe cops stuff be Reduced?

[Marcus]

Err so wil lthe cops stuff be Reduced?

Hmm, will the smuggling prize and rob banks reward be reduced as well ?