Negative attitude of players against others

[Leon.]

It's called superiority complex. It happens when one feels insecure about him/her self so they feel the need to become "powerful" and sit on a high chair and "rule" over others.

They don't necessarily have to be insecure. They do it because they like the feeling of sitting on your chest.

[Nathan]

They don't necessarily have to be insecure. They do it because they like the feeling of sitting on your chest.

That's true too.

[Kenny.]

Everyone becomes older and wiser.....

This statement in my view point is invalid because i seen alot of people getting older but they never grow up...

It's called superiority complex. It happens when one feels insecure about him/her self so they feel the need to become "powerful" and sit on a high chair and "rule" over others.

Its not being superiority , the fact that a person objects your say or idea does not mean they are in self denial, pricks attempting to rule you.

Criticism is how we test out theories and determine if they work, conform to exeprince and might be true. If we dont want our theories exposed to criticism, then we dont want to improve them or even know if they are wrong. This is a fundamental issue of intellectual integrity.

Argument itself should be valued and shouldnt be the deciding factor to ban a player. Of couse, there are inappropriate times and ways of arguing, and these should be discouraged.

[Kenny.]

If one is rejecting an idea, they have the full right to do so. But when it becomes a constant habit towards EVERYTHING, it's the lack of superiority over others and thus they search of a way to travel over everyone in attempt to put themselves in a high chair. It's seen a few times on Argonath. Even happened towards me. Such users have the right to say versus someone, but if they go off saying, "this is a bullshit thread" or "Everything you make is just bullshit and not needed", it's the most perfect example that one may be having the superiority complex.

Firstly i would like to urge you, please use a normal font like other users.

As i have explained in my previous post players will receive criticism, negative comments and jokes. Whether you can expect someone to take offense depends alot on their personallity.

Another sense of being offended is that, even though you aren't hurt personally, you think the comment is inappropriate. You think it violates an important rule of etiquette, and you can't stand tolerating that kind of thing.

If we find ourselves being offended by a comment in this way, I think it should be a warning sign that your thinking about things poorly, and there's an opportunity for improvement.

[Nathan]

Firstly i would like to urge you, please use a normal font like other users.

I been using Arial font forever. It's something that I do.

As i have explained in my previous post players will receive criticism, negative comments and jokes. Whether you can expect someone to take offense depends alot on their personallity.

I'm up for that. There is never a time when each party is happy. One will feel otherwise and it's not possibly to make everyone happy at the same time. I, personally, do not take offense to any "trolling" or alike because it's just there to aggravate you to respond negatively to them, hence the term, "don't feed the trolls". Thus, I simple ignore such posts or report them as currently, I noticed a few administrators (and a owner) are (is) taking actions against them.

Another sense of being offended is that, even though you aren't hurt personally, you think the comment is inappropriate. You think it violates an important rule of etiquette, and you can't stand tolerating that kind of thing.

There always was, always is, and always will be ones who comment inappropriately based on one's view. Sure, you are not hurt personally, but you feel that someone else will. If we see these kind of comments, we should refer the commentators to tell them that such and such comments shouldn't be used as this or that user may be offended by it.

If we find ourselves being offended by a comment in this way, I think it should be a warning sign that your thinking about things poorly, and there's an opportunity for improvement.

Nobody is perfect. There is always room for improvement. I personally feel that this "debate" you and I are having is sort-of endless and will continue for a time. Personally, I am, in no way, offended to what you have said as it is true and a good perspective of the community in your view. Your morals, my morals, everyone's morals matter and it is this what builds us a true diverse community on here.

[Nexxt]

The whole point on this, is that I hate the 'mentality' which says: "It's just the internet, so I do not care".
I do not care about people on internet in general too but that's not a problem, so you do not have to care about people on the internet aslong as you threat them with respect and appreciation. On some point, even if you think the internet is just a place to troll around and screw up, you realise there are some places on the internet which are quite usefull. I used to get my problems on Argonath, to talk with some people, and it kinda helped.

It's not worth to screw around, all backed up by the lame excuse: "this is just the internet, get used to it'.
Get used to the fact that I am trying to get a more friendly atmosphere within our community and I would put anything into that what is needed. Be friendly with eachother because in the end, you need the other side aswell for a good roleplay experience or somewhat. Or would you like to get a boring life in Argonath, all on the same place and all with the same people. Explore your friendships and be nice, that's the whole thing I am trying to say. And yes I do want to be positive, as I have seen some improvements recently.

[Nathan]

The whole point on this, is that I hate the 'mentality' which says: "It's just the internet, so I do not care".
I do not care about people on internet in general too but that's not a problem, so you do not have to care about people on the internet aslong as you threat them with respect and appreciation. On some point, even if you think the internet is just a place to troll around and screw up, you realise there are some places on the internet which are quite usefull. I used to get my problems on Argonath, to talk with some people, and it kinda helped.

Exactly on the spot. If one feels the way "it's just the internet, I don't care" then they should leave as otherwise, this mentality just catches on and becomes a fad. Nobody should "care" about others if they don't want to. But it's the relations we share that builds our strong userbase. If the userbase goes off with the mentality, "Nobody cares, don't respect anyone", our community will just break down. Yes, our. I am saying our as it is ALL of our jobs to shape this community. Either for the good, or for the worse.

Argonath, personally, has been a place for me to develop my personal civil skills. Sure, some may not agree with them, but that's their opinion. We, as members of this community, should encourage ourselves, and others to at least have some respect for everyone, no matter their history, past, acts, communications skills, or alike. Not everyone is perfect. But if we treat each other with some respect, less conflicts are to arise.

It's not worth to screw around, all backed up by the lame excuse: "this is just the internet, get used to it'.
Get used to the fact that I am trying to get a more friendly atmosphere within our community and I would put anything into that what is needed. Be friendly with eachother because in the end, you need the other side aswell for a good roleplay experience or somewhat. Or would you like to get a boring life in Argonath, all on the same place and all with the same people. Explore your friendships and be nice, that's the whole thing I am trying to say. And yes I do want to be positive, as I have seen some improvements recently.

You aren't the only one who is trying. There are a certain few who truly believe in this community and seek to improve it in whatever way possible. One should not only be friendly, but at least try to encourage the friendship behavior to improve parts of the community. For example, say I create an idea that is okay but is not perfect, one should tell me how to improve it and their personal view besides the idea being "stupid", "retarded", "dumb", or likewise. See, with little changes as this, we can already create a more welcoming and beautiful image of Argonath. Sure, perfection is never to be reached, but we should all aim to reach that level.

[Altair_Carter]

@Altair: This topic isn't meant to show my problems with others.

Negative attitude of players against me

It was meant to in the first place.

[Nexxt]

No, not really Altair - that's the way you wanna put it on me. I used my situation to create an image, and maybe I gave the topic a wrong name. But don't we all make a little fault once in a time?

[Altair_Carter]

You bet.

So, to be on the current topic, it's the players nowadays and their attitude towards others. People mostly hang out with their friends only, and react negatively to others. Sad but true.

[MCR]

Could other trolls please continue here ? Kind of makes it easy to catch them in one place.

damn...

[Nathan]

So, to be on the current topic, it's the players nowadays and their attitude towards others. People mostly hang out with their friends only, and react negatively to others. Sad but true.

So why don't you make a change with it? Invite some new more people to be part of your friends. In the past few weeks, personally I made a lot of friends just by interacting with people.

[Altair_Carter]

So why don't you make a change with it? Invite some new more people to be part of your friends. In the past few weeks, personally I made a lot of friends just by interacting with people.

You sound like it's i'm the one who's issuing about it. I'm just stating the fact.

[Nathan]

You sound like it's i'm the one who's issuing about it. I'm just stating the fact.

It's not you. It's generally overall. But why not spark the idea to let others follow and do the same? Groups and associations such as NBA and i9 have shown this to be a good spark, but it's not enough.

[Gandalf]

As you may have seen, I have started activity in this topic by throwing out some trash, even if that may be seen as dictatorship by some of the more argumentative members.

Over time we have seen a deterioration of the quality of posts, and the main reason for it is that we as leaders do not have the opportunity to control all. Other forum moderators may act by judging towards their own background, and ths will always lead to differences in what is allowed and what is not.

The key argoment here are two sayings.

The first one: treat others like you want to be treated yourself.
Want respect ? Give it. Want to be treated like shit ? Treat others like shit.

The second one: answer for your words.
If you want to act tough and troll, do not go crying when you get punishment.
If you want to offend others, not dot push the report button if you get offended or worse.

The words dictatorship and censorship have been used. First of al Argonath has never been a democratic community, and I doubt it will ever become one. There are a small number of founders and leaders, and they are the ones who determine what is accepted.
As for censorship, we would like to challenge anyone to show a GTA community where there is more allowed as on Argonath. When we do act, it is because of legal obligation, or just because we feel someone misuses the freedom we give.

Freedom of speech is used as excuse by some people to do as they please, and try to confuse the adminsand moderators in to accepting. Those people should read the two sayings once more.
Freedom of speech does not dosallow us to set limits to what we accept, and actions we take whne anyone crosses those limits. Our limits are very open, and we might choose to tighten them when we feel that the posters here can not handle the freedom they have.

As for attitude to others, it is very simple. If you think that others will respect you by trolling, offending people and acting tough, you are mistaken. Those who will encourage and laugh with you are only some slimy friends, mostly those who are not having balls enough to do it them selves. People who do not know you will see you as a prick at the level of kindergarten, who act like a 5 year old to get attention.

On the other hand, if you show interest in others and respond without offending or hostile attitude, you may make a lot more friends, both here and in life. Even if someone starts acting tough to you, stay calm and answer friendly. Chances are they drop the facade and show them selves as people who may become friends.

So the next time you see a new player who tries to get your attention, greet him friendly. The world will be a better place if you drop the attitude, for you and for others.