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[Exclusive.]

Maybe it is true, at that time the only active groups were 58th and Gvardia. Even people who were NOT in any of these groups voted for them. Maybe they did really deserve it?

[Que]

Then why did many members of Gvardia and 58th start voting for each other in such an organized manner... even if a group is a group, that does not mean the majority of its members think exactly the same.

Gvardia is the only group I could ever vote for as the best criminal group.

[JDC]

At the time, many members of many other groups played on the server too.
 
To that nut who voted FBI as the Best Criminal Group, I admire your courage.

[Raykaza]

Then why did many members of Gvardia and 58th start voting for each other in such an organized manner... even if a group is a group, that does not mean the majority of its members think exactly the same.

How about stop guessing and thinking and GIVE US SOME MATERIAL PROOFS.

[Cofiliano]

Then why did many members of Gvardia and 58th start voting for each other in such an organized manner... even if a group is a group, that does not mean the majority of its members think exactly the same.

Don't spread bullshit. 

[SugarD]

Why don't you guys just drop the damn arguing and wait for something to happen?

[Que]

You finally realized that. I believe I told everyone to stop arguing on the first page. Yet people come here and call us cheaters, and there's no evidence revealed anywhere. If people wants to give out punches, then they should face the consequences for their actions.

[Raykaza]

Why don't you guys just drop the damn arguing and wait for something to happen?

Something concern you here ? NO ! So please as long as we havent received any evidences that shows how we got DQ'd we will just keep asking for them...but people like you start arguing just in order to argue...what you are doing now is asking yourself.so yeah drop it and let the people involved take care of it.thanks

[SugarD]

Why don't you guys just drop the damn arguing and wait for something to happen?

[Eugene]

why are you even here? you are not involved in this whole "thing"

[Daco]

> Implying SugarD has no idea of what the term 'trolling' means

 :roll:

you're doing it wrong

[SugarD]

Why don't you guys just drop the damn arguing and wait for something to happen?

[Leon.]

hypocrisy at it is best?

accident.

Then why did many members of Gvardia and 58th start voting for each other in such an organized manner... even if a group is a group, that does not mean the majority of its members think exactly the same.

I knew someone would ask this...
58th:
1. is an active roleplay-dedicated group
2. is the only group that bothers to go into San Fierro and roleplay with us
3. is the only group that roleplayed to our members' standards
4. is really tight with us (a lot of the members there were in Gvardia, one of Gvardia's allies, or were tight with us to begin with)
5. keeps close contact with us
6. is the group we recommend applicants for Gvardia to apply for in order to increase their roleplay capabilities and knowledge
7. is the only Los Santos-based gang whose mission is anything but targeting Gvardia and taking pictures of each time they confront one in order to brag about it to their friends

58th could say number 3, 4, and 5 word-for-word to describe us too.

Must I mention, monkey-see-monkey-do? Gvardia members (including myself) learn by observing.

Is that justifiable enough, or must I start using harsh sarcasm to get it through people's heads? The only evidence Giac has is the hunch that Gvardia members HAPPEN to vote for 58th and 58th members HAPPEN to vote for Gvardia. This could be related to the "return the favor concept." Member votes for 58th > another member votes for 58th > 58th member sees vote > 58th member votes for Gvardia > 58th members jump in > Gvardia members jump in. No contact at all regarding the votes. Any hard evidence he may have is clearly fake.

I'm so sure that Gvardia and its leaders were not involved in cheating that I, a leader of Gvardia, am willing to surrender Gvardia's official status and even have the group closed if the integrity of the evidence (if any) meets my standards.

[Raykaza]

accident.I knew someone would ask this...
58th:
1. is an active roleplay-dedicated group
2. is the only group that bothers to go into San Fierro and roleplay with us
3. is the only group that roleplayed to our members' standards
4. is really tight with us (a lot of the members there were in Gvardia, one of Gvardia's allies, or were tight with us to begin with)
5. keeps close contact with us
6. is the group we recommend applicants for Gvardia to apply for in order to increase their roleplay capabilities and knowledge
7. is the only Los Santos-based gang whose mission is anything but targeting Gvardia and taking pictures of each time they confront one in order to brag about it to their friends

58th could say number 3, 4, and 5 word-for-word to describe us too.

Must I mention, monkey-see-monkey-do? Gvardia members (including myself) learn by observing.

Is that justifiable enough, or must I start using harsh sarcasm to get it through people's heads? The only evidence Giac has is the hunch that Gvardia members HAPPEN to vote for 58th and 58th members HAPPEN to vote for Gvardia. This could be related to the "return the favor concept." Member votes for 58th > another member votes for 58th > 58th member sees vote > 58th member votes for Gvardia > 58th members jump in > Gvardia members jump in. No contact at all regarding the votes. Any hard evidence he may have is clearly fake.

I'm so sure that Gvardia and its leaders were not involved in cheating that I, a leader of Gvardia, am willing to surrender Gvardia's official status and even have the group closed if the integrity of the evidence (if any) meets my standards.

Couldnt say it better,Mr Leon.

[Kenny.]

I a leader of Gvardia, am willing to surrender Gvardia's official status and even have the group closed if the integrity of the evidence (if any) meets my standards.

Just a question, how high are your standards or expectations?