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BWAT I mean SWAT

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Offline KlausTopic starter

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on: February 19, 2011, 04:23:32 am
The possibility of selecting SWAT should only be enabled if there is a criminal with a high bounty.


Discuss.


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Reply #1 on: February 19, 2011, 05:59:37 am
Nah I think there should just be a /c equip command.
Since SWAT is already a ARPD group.

I mean, who will want to use the /c equip command for someone with a small bounty?

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Reply #2 on: February 19, 2011, 11:28:36 am
Actually, players are only able to wear their SWAT uniforms, when there are groups of criminals with high bounty level. You can't just go out with the SWAT uniform on minor cases.



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Reply #3 on: February 19, 2011, 12:16:21 pm
Actually, players are only able to wear their SWAT uniforms, when there are groups of criminals with high bounty level. You can't just go out with the SWAT uniform on minor cases.
Now, I don't want to argue, but it doesn't seem like ppl like this rule from what I saw, you know what I mean? And no, I'm not talking about me when I was script abusing.



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Reply #4 on: February 19, 2011, 12:21:11 pm
Actually, players are only able to wear their SWAT uniforms, when there are groups of criminals with high bounty level. You can't just go out with the SWAT uniform on minor cases.
Exactly how high are you talking about?
5 or 6?



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Reply #5 on: February 19, 2011, 02:41:00 pm
Yea, those with the right to have SWAT gears should only use them in combat/police work when it comes to high risk situations - usually involving heavy weaponry.

Exceptions being for training purposes and internal SWAT operations.



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Reply #6 on: February 19, 2011, 04:38:33 pm
No. SWAT already have duty regulations, means they can go on duty only on situations listed in a topic at restricted boards, but i can assure people in SWAT CAN'T go on SWAT duty to chase minor criminals. If you see someone doing this report to me or Marcus.

Now, I don't want to argue, but it doesn't seem like ppl like this rule from what I saw, you know what I mean? And no, I'm not talking about me when I was script abusing.

Lol i knew this was going to happen. What probably makes us look like ''abusers'', ''BWAT'' is that we are most of time on duty, but ALWAYS with a reason, as 70% of the time a Operative is online there is a situation that allows him to get on SWAT duty...

Exactly how high are you talking about?
5 or 6?

We won't inform this, but SWAT is also allowed to chase a single criminal depending of his bounty.

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Reply #7 on: February 19, 2011, 04:52:11 pm
I'm not accussing your BWAT officers of anything, just remind them to change back to default duty when the biggest criminals are down ;) Kinda annoying to see BWAT officer chasing me in Cheetah while my wanted level is 2, and when I start escaping on foot I get taken down by hail of bullets from assault rifle...



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Reply #8 on: February 19, 2011, 05:04:40 pm
Hey hey wait a minute here pal, SWAT doesn't stay on duty after the major criminal is dead, and even if we did, we are inactive or roaming the streets waiting for something " big " to happen.. That's my point of view.



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Reply #9 on: February 19, 2011, 05:19:47 pm
What's this "BWAT" word about?

Honestly,you should live with it just the way it is.



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Reply #10 on: February 19, 2011, 05:20:26 pm
Hey hey wait a minute here pal, SWAT doesn't stay on duty after the major criminal is dead, and even if we did, we are inactive or roaming the streets waiting for something " big " to happen.. That's my point of view.
I never said you do, I said it seems some of you ppl just seem to forget about that, sometimes.



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Reply #11 on: February 19, 2011, 05:31:56 pm
I have to agree with Marcell. More often am I seeing officers using SWAT skin to chase low level criminals. More to the point they even debate why they should be able to suspect when SWAT. SWAT isn't for "roaming around waiting for something big to happen". They are sent out for situations where the cops can't handle it.


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Reply #12 on: February 19, 2011, 05:43:45 pm
I have to agree with Marcell. More often am I seeing officers using SWAT skin to chase low level criminals. More to the point they even debate why they should be able to suspect when SWAT. SWAT isn't for "roaming around waiting for something big to happen". They are sent out for situations where the cops can't handle it.
Report them to ARPD Forum or PM to Leonardo.


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Reply #13 on: February 19, 2011, 05:49:48 pm
Report them to ARPD Forum or PM to Leonardo.
No point in that - it happens to every BWAT officer, sometimes. Besides I don't think I'll get much of Leo's trust when I got banned for DMing, that's for sure.

Anyways the point is I think SWAT duty should be only available on emergency protocols (like Gear 5) or just some auto-lock for it, so when they aren't any criminals with WL higher of 6 you can't go on SWAT duty. However the problem is, no role-playing when admins are off, and that can be annoying.

This is not the best idea, but something really needs to be done.

And yeah, Klaus - I heard 'OMG, why the hell can't i suspect as a SWAT' line 100 times.



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Reply #14 on: February 19, 2011, 06:15:52 pm
happens to every BWAT officer, sometimes. Besides I don't think I'll get much of Leo's trust when I got banned for DMing, that's for sure.

If you have proofs the complaint will be dealt accordingly, i'm fucking sick of seeing people saying ''ok swat abuse lol u chase small crimez'' WHEN PEOPLE DON'T REPORT THEN. Please, start reporting this to me or Marcus WITH proofs (screenshots, logs, videos) AND WE WILL TAKE ACTIONS!

I'll tell you a example. I hear criminals saying X is one of the SWAT operatives who mostly ''abuses''. What he exactly abuses? He is trigger-happy? He's corrupt? Send a complaint to me. Simple.

I have to agree with Marcell. More often am I seeing officers using SWAT skin to chase low level criminals. More to the point they even debate why they should be able to suspect when SWAT. SWAT isn't for "roaming around waiting for something big to happen". They are sent out for situations where the cops can't handle it.

See what i said above. And yes i agree, SWAT should not be able to suspect. The suspection must be done with VCID/VCPD cooperation. SWAT is trained only to RESPOND to the situations, not do the paperwork and sign tickets...


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