define:'criminal'

[9r2e5i3k]

I hope this topic won't turn out into any moan topic or flame war...

I want to know what's the actual definition of "criminal", especially by self-claimed "criminals" and "criminal" group members. Because I sense there must be some logical fallacy in understanding what's a "criminal" (not only between criminals themselves, but between players in general) that causes all the moaning about "criminals" in various topics.

Assumption for this topic: no definition is assumed as wrong (yet, we'll argue about it later), so no arguing about someone being "wrong"

[Pandalink]

"criminals" and "criminal" group members.

These are the same thing, and that is my definition.

[Jubin]

These are the same thing, and that is my definition.

Panda. I am not a member of any criminal grouping, but I do role play in situations that are illegal( money laundering, illegal immigration, tax evasion, clashes with different gangs/ criminal organization). So am I a criminal or not?

[9r2e5i3k]

These are the same thing, and that is my definition.

So anyone being a member of a group that calls themselves "criminals", is a "criminal"?
Got any narrower definitions?

[Aksel]

Criminal: Person that does not have his name in blue

[Que]

Panda. I am not a member of any criminal grouping, but I do role play in situations that are illegal( money laundering, illegal immigration, tax evasion, clashes with different gangs/ criminal organization). So am I a criminal or not?

You're a criminal.

[(tr)Ollie]

Definitions of criminal on the Web:

condemnable: bringing or deserving severe rebuke or censure; "a criminal waste of talent"; "a deplorable act of violence"; "adultery is as reprehensible for a husband as for a wife"
guilty of crime or serious offense; "criminal in the sight of God and man"
someone who has committed a crime or has been legally convicted of a crime
involving or being or having the nature of a crime; "a criminal offense"; "criminal abuse"; "felonious intent"
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Crime is the breach of rules or laws for which some governing authority (via mechanisms such as legal systems) can ultimately prescribe a conviction. Individual human societies may each define crime and crimes differently. ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal
The Criminal is a 1960 British drama film produced by Nat Cohen and directed by Joseph Losey, starring Stanley Baker, Sam Wanamaker and Jill Bennett. Baker plays an ex-con who takes part in the robbery of a racetrack and is caught and sent back to prison. ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Criminal
Criminal is an ongoing American creator-owned crime comic book series by writer Ed Brubaker with artist Sean Phillips published by Marvel Comics' Icon imprint.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_(comics)
Criminal is a 2004 film based upon the Argentine film Nine Queens. Directed by Gregory Jacobs, it stars John C. Reilly, Diego Luna and Maggie Gyllenhaal and is a production of Section Eight, the production company of Steven Soderbergh and George Clooney.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_(film)
"Criminal" is a 1996 piano rock song by Fiona Apple. Apple described the song as a description of "feeling bad for getting something so easily by using your sexuality.". Blender (magazine). October 2005. Retrieved June 29, 2007. ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_(song)
Criminal (క్రిమినల్) is a 1995 Telugu film directed by Mahesh Bhatt and produced by K. S. Rama Rao. It stars Akkineni Nagarjuna, Manisha Koirala, Ramya Krishnan, Nassar, Gulshan Grover, and Sharat Babu. M.M. Keeravani composed music for the film.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_(1994_film)
Ten Thousand Fists is the third album by American heavy metal band Disturbed. The album was released on September 20, 2005 and became Disturbed's second consecutive number-one debut on the Billboard 200 in the United States, shipping around 239,000 copies in its opening week. ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_(Disturbed_song)
A person who is guilty of a crime, notably breaking the law; Being against the law, forbidden by legislation; Guilty of breaking the law; In various legal systems, the most serious type of law-breaking, carrying graver sentences then one or more 'lesser' categories; Of or relating to crime ...
en.wiktionary.org/wiki/criminal
criminally - in a shameful manner; "the garden was criminally neglected"
criminally - in violation of the law; in a criminal manner; "the alterations in the document were ruled to be criminally fraudulent"
wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
The Criminals was a punk rock band from Berkeley, California, that released records on the Lookout!, New Disorder Records and Adeline Records labels. Singer Jesse Luscious previously performed with Blatz and The Gr'ups. ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Criminals

[9r2e5i3k]

I do not need definitions "from the web", get that copypasta outta here

[duffman]

Criminal - Orange man.

Ollie what a copyfail.

[Cero]

A criminal; someone who takes part in illegal activities.

Really now.

[Leon.]

Criminal - One who knowingly participates in various crimes consistently. These are not those who go and speed all the time, shoot in the air for whoring attention, do reckless driving. Instead, they consistently (or occasionally) do a combination of all or some of participating in drug dealing, carrying out hits, rape/kidnapping/murder, and all of the other fancy stuff. One does not earn the title of a true criminal until they show they are capable of roleplaying as a criminal, rather than just doing the illegal stuff alone.

Criminals can call themselves criminals not by being suspected 24/7, and not even by doing the aforementioned crimes above, but just by being some opposition to law enforcement.

[Frank_Hawk]

To Catch a Thief: The Psychology of a Criminal

[Jubin]

+PzP+9r2e5i3k, maybe it's easier to actually define everyone else beside "criminals"?

[Raykaza]

Criminal is simply someone who break law anyhow.

[Pandalink]

A criminal, generally in a criminal group, is someone who calls themselves such even when not suspected, and is recognised as such by other players.