PS3 or Wii?

[weed_indeed]

People who play football games and racing games are not AT ALL anything remotely like a 'hardcore gamer'.
Oh, and before you start going off on another nonsensical tangent about Nintendo needing to focus on this and that, just remember which portable console has outsold the PSP at least, what, 3 times over now. For those who don't realise, it's the DS lite. Not the DS, the DS lite which came out several months after the PSP's latest launch in the UK.

If you want to play football games etc. don't be a loser and play them on a console - go out and do it in real life.
Oh, and seeing as this is a 'next gen' topic, it wouldn't hurt to check Wii vs. PS3 sales and pre-order figures either. In sales Wii has sold nearly triple that of the ps3, in preorders it's on the verge of 10x the amount.

PS3 is a total failure, it has tried to copy both 360 and Wii, and came out with something universally recognised as a terrible, terrible machine.

Just to cover my back here - before any ill informed person starts going on about how Nintendo only do 'kiddy' games, check the line-up for wii releases. Just because it's not entirely consisting of racing games and fps games, doesn't mean it doesn't have an adult title range. I mean, even Zelda is much more dark and sinister now.

RedSteel who cares about your opinion if you are going to act like 'I know best' 'Everyone else is wrong' so keep your comments to yourself.

A: I play football games when it is raining and have nothing better to do.
B: Do not tell me to play football outside when I play for Nottingham Forest FC under 21's which soon I will be playing for them professionaly. Another thing never call me a loser without taking a look at yourself. You argue over someones OPINION that makes you the biggest loser there could possibly be. This topic is a discussion topic with peoples OPINIONS there is no need to argue with people as everyone is entitled to their own so do not speak to me, about me or generaly have anything to do with me until you grow up, I only talk to people with a little sense in their brain.
C: I serious gaming meaning playing games seriously not for fun. I play football games seriously and not for fun, I don't know what you do with football games but that's up to you.
D: Nintendo produced the Gamecube that was a total shambles I sold mine it was pathetic. They produced the Gameboys before and the DS after everyone loved it because they are good at portable gaming that is fun. Not serious gaming.
E: The DS sold more than the PSP because it was cheaper and more affordable. Not because it was better than the PSP.
F: More info has been produced about the Wii than the PS3 so you are able to find out more facts so that you can then go and purchase the games and pre-order the products you want.

Just to cover my back here -

This is not a popularity contest. So why are you trying to score popularity points?

[Tuntis]

Sony ripped off Nintendo's idea. If you think Nintendo wasn't aiming for "serious gaming", they are now (atleast).

This is not a popularity contest. So why are you trying to score popularity points?

Excuse me? I see nothing related to "scoring" in his statement that Nintendo's not for "kiddy games". RedSteel did not go all "lol wtf i r teh best i know", but he does know about things. Blu-Ray is quite an pathetic excuse for PS3 to be "good", actually. It's other technical specifics limit it from taking full advantage of it anyways.

I remember having an argument like this about the DS and the PSP in the ab forums, and I came up with the result of asking everybody not to post unless they have researched their technical facts & other facts, so let's do that, please?

[Dave]

hey guys im on both sides cos im getting both

[X~Shaheen~X]

yeah..... :conf:

um did you guys know the ps3 was black? :redface:

[Tuntis]

I removed a few of the last posts. If this goes into a straight argument again, I won't allow any more console warring in this topic, and it's just going to be "which are you getting".

Research your technical facts. Ranger, the PS3 (of course) supports any TV, and of course it needs a HDTV compatible TV to show such content (but of course games will have an alternative for ordinary televisions. HDTV isn't that popular outside America yet). Instead, you indirectly claimed that it needs an HDTV TV.

If somebody's going to start a new argument, remember, "Nintendo is only for kiddies" is a bad point. Check out their games list, do you see only "Super Mario and his adventure for *insert-something-here*"? No, almost all 12+ games have been ported to the Gamecube & Wii. And to avoid further technical misnaming, it's "Blu-Ray".

[RedSteel]

Those who think because Blu-ray holds more data it will mean dramatically bigger games are horribly mistaken.
No developer with any sense would make a game which takes up that much space - I mean, think about the absurd amount of time it'll take. On average, a game worth around 2-5gb takes a year to make everything and get it all finalised for realease, as well as tested for bugs.
A game which used all the space on a blue-ray disc would take an incredible amount of time, and I wouldn't be surprised to see it take longer than the life of the console
(although Sony, in their infinite wisdom, decided that they don't have to make a console for the next gen after PS3, seeing as it won't be out dated....pfft... fools. Putting a console on the market for 10 years!!)

[X~Shaheen~X]

So does anyone then think there will be a ps4? or will they stop after that 

[RedSteel]

Unless the ps3 fails as bad as the PSP did in terms of sales, there will be a PS4. Just not for a while (a decade or so) as they'll only introduce it once sony decide the PS3's dead and old news. Not when consumers and sales figures say so.

[X~Shaheen~X]

i never expected that all this was such huge news. all i expected was them in a office saying, wana make a new playstatio? sure why not. but damn the things they do to get people started  :roll:

[Gandalf]

Those who think because Blu-ray holds more data it will mean dramatically bigger games are horribly mistaken.
No developer with any sense would make a game which takes up that much space - I mean, think about the absurd amount of time it'll take. On average, a game worth around 2-5gb takes a year to make everything and get it all finalised for realease, as well as tested for bugs.
A game which used all the space on a blue-ray disc would take an incredible amount of time, and I wouldn't be surprised to see it take longer than the life of the console
(although Sony, in their infinite wisdom, decided that they don't have to make a console for the next gen after PS3, seeing as it won't be out dated....pfft... fools. Putting a console on the market for 10 years!!)

Redsteel, do you remember the time games were on floppy-disks ? At the time we could not possible imagine a game taking up a full CD (650Mb) of disk space.
Right now... DVD.
Blu-ray will be used as well. But probably not until the hardware can produce more life-like environments. In a couple of years games will be like movies with real actors. For this a lot of data space and better hardware specs are needed. 

[Tuntis]

The PS3 probably can't possibly take atleast full use of the space, if the Blu-Ray disk' filesize is exceeded due to other limitations within it's hardware.

[X~Shaheen~X]

The PS3 probably can't possibly take atleast full use of the space, if the Blu-Ray disk' filesize is exceeded due to other limitations within it's hardware.

So your saying, we will use up only a lil of blueray until they find better better and better things to put on it right? and once blueray cant compete with what they have planned thel make ps4 prolly?

[RedSteel]

A couple of years is VERY kind, considering the fact that really and truely, not all that much has changed in the past decade of gaming when it comes to conventional gaming of the playstation family in particular.
Granted those kind of graphics might be possible by the time the ps4's out, but that's not for another 10 years yet.

[X~Shaheen~X]

i have just recently played on a wii and i played zelda, my hand feels funny i enjoy the fact its more interactive than ps3 but still there is alot im thinking about

[sRy]

woooo!!!! the ps3 cost 3500$ here   :money: :money: :money: