Argonath RPG Official Clan: White Shadows ~ Gaming Clan

[Aragorn]

I suppose you do not sensor as far as it does not relate to you...
WS are official clan here and I would not appreciate ANY official clan which sits and washes my bones somewhere else cos here they understand they will be banned...

I also would not allow ANY topics like that on RockStars clan forums about ANY developer of Argonath... And as soon as there will appear some shit about any of you the topic would be locked and removed immediately...

So either you are official clan here or you are a trash place for banned pissed off freaks...

Your choice...

[Thomas 'Leroy' Crof]

So either you are official clan here or you are a trash place for banned pissed off freaks...

As much as we'd like to, we'd be scouting the forums 24/7 to avoid any flaming from happening, but we simply can't. All of us have a real-life and that means we cannot keep watch over the website all day long. We try to avoid flaming, but we allow freedom of speech. When a member wants to express his dislikes about another player (be it a developer, be it a newcomer) he is allowed to express his feelings as long as he does not flame.

If any flaming occured, then it was maybe in between the time the reply was posted and an administrator seeing the reply.

[Aragorn]

Lets not turn it into finding the ways?
That was not the case of no time... The topic has 3 pages of listening to the shit...

All WS sit and eat the flame against Aragorn covering it by "freedom of speech"?

Were there all agree that he is a nice person and does not troll anyone on Argonath?
I suppose yes, otherwise would not tolerate some piece of shit behind my back and could tell openly like men to shut the f**k up...

I will not even mention the fake accusations, turning the facts and a simple lie, using the forums which are not visited by me (behind my back)...

If the official clans do allow SUCH freedom of speech then time to drop this things down on one of stages - here or there...

[Caltson]

Aragorn,

The White Shadows Clan is not in any way trying to insult or blackmail the Argonath RPG community and it's leadership. The actual topic was made by a member that was no longer part of the SA:MP division at the time being and should not represent the actual opinion of our clanmembers itself. As far as my word reaches, I'm not leading the clan but as loyal member and Division leader I can in all honesty tell you that the clan would not insult you. Still your warning is loud and clear and will remain that way as this topic was indeed posted on our forum, where members of Argonath and our clan could read it without concern.

I would like to point out tough, that not all of us plainly 'agreed' with the insults given on that topic, Instead many of us started a discussion with a high disagreement on the view of the topic author. With this issue I hope your view about our clan has not been changed, as we do not share our vision with the topic author and are happy to recieve the support of the Argonath RPG Community.

Regards,
Ryan Caltson

[Thomas 'Leroy' Crof]

Lets not turn it into finding the ways?
That was not the case of no time... The topic has 3 pages of listening to the shit...

All WS sit and eat the flame against Aragorn covering it by "freedom of speech"?

Were there all agree that he is a nice person and does not troll anyone on Argonath?
I suppose yes, otherwise would not tolerate some piece of shit behind my back and could tell openly like men to shut the f**k up...

I will not even mention the fake accusations, turning the facts and a simple lie, using the forums which are not visited by me (behind my back)...

If the official clans do allow SUCH freedom of speech then time to drop this things down on one of stages - here or there...

I stand corrected that, on the first three pages, there are no real signs of disapproval towards the author. However, at the same time, there are no approving messages either, only that you have a 'short fuse'. But, on the fourth (and last) page of the topic, you can clearly see that the opinion of members is clearly curving to your side, rather than to Ezio's.

[Brokman]

Guys I would be glad that you do not fight about this, that obviously make things worst.

[SavioR88]

Guys I would be glad that you do not fight about this, that obviously make things worst.

Agreed

[Aragorn]

I stand corrected that, on the first three pages, there are no real signs of disapproval towards the author. However, at the same time, there are no approving messages either, only that you have a 'short fuse'. But, on the fourth (and last) page of the topic, you can clearly see that the opinion of members is clearly curving to your side, rather than to Ezio's.

Either my English sucks that badly or people just do not want to realise the point...
I am not here to discuss and read discussions about Argonath developers... And I will not tolerate any shit discussions about Argonath developers on the official clans webs... Especially opinions of banned for flame and trolling players... Is that clear?
I do not care who was on which side and who won in the end... Thats ridiculous to think I am talking about this shit competitions...
Player banned on Argonath for the correct reasons... Runs to your clan forums and started expressing his negatives clearly bullshitting and flaming the developer who banned him... That was called freedom of speech and was hanging on three pages...

If clan has no idea whats freedom of speech, if they cover the pure flame against developers behind their backs by the freedom of speech excuses then just this clan does not deserve even be an official here and should either reconsider own point of view on whats freedom of speech or resign from official clans and then can go flame me as much as you want... Till first report...

[Brokman]

Aragorn, the fact is the forum admininistration didn't pay attention to this topic, before now, and we are sorry that slanderous comments about your person has been left ignored.
I take all responsabilities of my incompetence to administrate a forum in this story, if you may excuse me for my ignorance.

I know what is freedom of speech :

"The free communication of ideas and opinions is one of the most precious of the rights of man. Every citizen may, accordingly, speak, write, and print with freedom, but shall be responsible for such abuses of this freedom as shall be defined by law."

We both agree that this freedom as been abused in our case, denigrating your person. And once again I am sorry that has been left ignored.

[Aragorn]

Thanks for setting the positions up...
Warning is expired...

[Winters]

Welcome Axi, Michelle, Jessica and Jasmine!

[Tovenaarke]

Gratz ladies and gentleman!  :banana:

[XSniper]

Accepted into the Clan.
You won't regret it.

[Tovenaarke]

Welcome XKalachinkov!

[MrTony]

Welcome to the clan Ex-Sniper.