/c hide (or /c stealth, w/e it was) limitation

[~Legend~]

^ True, especially in scenarios such as the Love Fist bank rob. 

But a pain when some guy turns up, stands around for a bit then gets a M4 out, as he was conveniently helping his gang bud while passing by for work, hehes.

[Marcell]

Cops don't run? Good one...when I was on 105 heat record, cops with low HP ran way from me, death-evading by drowning so that my wanted level wouldn't speak too much itself by getting higher ('OH LOOK COPZ FAILED LOL')

And it all depends, not everytime a group is wanted it means they're packing like EAF - with m60 and all. They are often not-organized and don't have any other weapons than those that they picked up from cops Also try to get cover next time if you die or call backup, lol

And it looks like I'm a ninja then, cause I can type /c dis when I have 3 VCID snipers after me and 2 cops after me rambo'ing with shotugns as well, without dying for the first minute or second, lol.

Also try shooting a cop next time until his HP is low, the chance he will fight to death is low, he will most likely run away and get restock (or lure you to VCPD station and restock all the time)

[Frank_Federico]

Cops don't run? Good one...when I was on 105 heat record, cops with low HP ran way from me, death-evading by drowning so that my wanted level wouldn't speak too much itself by getting higher ('OH LOOK COPZ FAILED LOL')

And it all depends, not everytime a group is wanted it means they're packing like EAF - with m60 and all. They are often not-organized and don't have any other weapons than those that they picked up from cops Also try to get cover next time if you die or call backup, lol

And it looks like I'm a ninja then, cause I can type /c dis when I have 3 VCID snipers after me and 2 cops after me rambo'ing with shotugns as well, without dying for the first minute or second, lol.

Also try shooting a cop next time until his HP is low, the chance he will fight to death is low, he will most likely run away and get restock (or lure you to VCPD station and restock all the time)

Lol, you know who the cops are, we don't know who the bad guys are. They could be bad guys even though they're not in the wanted list.
And yeah, I get your point, though. The only people who I actually use stealth against is EAF and IT when they're grouped up or well-armed, otherwise I try to get to you without it.
You guys developped a pretty good tactic against stealth: /c dis. You get to us most of the times, don't you?

[Ave]

Agencies such as the VCID should be able to use stealth since similar agencies IRL have devices to scramble or jam radar signals. However, using them just to kill a suspect is lame. Like Marcell said, it should be used to place surveillance bugs, not go rambo and shoot all criminals in sight.

Well, I completely agree with you Storm

Stealth duration should be shortened in some way, however I believe this is a useful tool to suspect right players from safe distance.
I can think of multiple devices to balance the gameplay - like radar scrambler or EMP countermeasures available at Phil's Place for everyone (expensive toys). But due to VCPD being outnumbered and not that much active recently, we can live without those tools on normal basis.

[Marcell]

Well, I completely agree with you Storm

Stealth duration should be shortened in some way, however I believe this is a useful tool to suspect right players from safe distance.
I can think of multiple devices to balance the gameplay - like radar scrambler or EMP countermeasures available at Phil's Place for everyone (expensive toys). But due to VCPD being outnumbered and not that much active recently, we can live without those tools on normal basis.

Actually with recent changes in ARPD I managed to notice our assasi...I mean VCID is more active - maybe not super active, but definately more active than before.
Remember VCID has backup from BOON/regular VCPD, it's a dangerous mix

It would be cool to buy some expensive tool to uncover VCID agents on the map when they're on stealth or something...or maybe a tool for everyone to use stealth, like you can buy 2 radar scramblers max and each works for 3 minutes with a cooldown so you can't use both at the same time.

Criminals can buy nails (which cops do have) so why not?

[Alarba]

Just buy a cop radar or something

[Frank_Federico]

Criminals can buy nails (which cops do have) so why not?

Are you actually comparing radar jammers with nails? Lol 

[Klaus]

Talking of nails, that script is srsly bugged

[stormeus]

Talking of nails, that script is srsly bugged

* stormeus has dropped a handful of nails from their car.

* stormeus hits his own nails.

Needs to be fixed.
Anyways, back on-topic, limit usage of stealth, allow criminals to buy EMP avoidance/radar scramblers at Phil's Place. Anything else?

[Frank_Federico]

Talking of nails, that script is srsly bugged

You're saying that because I hit you with those like three times in a row today :P

[~Legend~]

Yea, if you don't drive fast enough your wheels are also going.
Hm, does it deploy from right beneath the position of the car? That'd be it, I guess.

[Frank_Federico]

Yea, if you don't drive fast enough your wheels are also going.
Hm, does it deploy from right beneath the position of the car? That'd be it, I guess.

As you'd throw the nails out of your window IRL, the nails should spawn like one meter away from your car.

[Klaus]

As you'd throw the nails out of your window IRL

IRL, the car behind you wouldn't suddenly have all four of it's tires shredded

[Leonardo]

i'll have a talk with Alex Thompson, so i'm going to publish here part of the VCID regulation book, so this bullshit of ''lol abuse'' will be cleared. I'll be posting here soon.
Post Merge: May 22, 2011, 06:18:36 pm

3. You may use /c stealth command against MURDERERS, HEAVILY ARMED SUSPECTS or when you need to investigate someone without him knowing about it. If you don't need to use stealth anymore, such as the suspects were taken out, turn stealth off.

Take your own conclusions now.

[Morphine]

3. You may use /c stealth command against MURDERERS, HEAVILY ARMED SUSPECTS or when you need to investigate someone without him knowing about it. If you don't need to use stealth anymore, such as the suspects were taken out, turn stealth off.

Does that ever happen?