To Gandalf

[Emre]

I guess that you never visited MTA:VC in 2007. In 2009 the SA:MP community was already corrupting RP everywhere.

Guessed right. Was really difficult, right? We're talking about the VC:MP RP though. Nothing about SAMP RP and corrupting.

You can collect millions of picture, but as long as you do not send them to the developer (KLAUS) you have no right to moan. If you wish to continue a backstabbing campaign, I suggest you to check the recent bans and warnings given to others.

Well, as well as I was informed, you told us to forward to you, which we did, but you seemed to be busy with something else (wonder what). And yes, exactly for that, I can moan as much as I want, even if I have no right to do so
I don't care about the banish- and warnishments that were given, because they don't concern me in any fucking way.

[Gandalf]

I don't care about the banish- and warnishments that were given, because they don't concern me in any f**king way.

They do now.

As for your collection, sending one year old screenshots of mostly RP situations or mistakes of admins that were never reported to the developer does not impress me.

[Morphine]

Emre, I think as long as everyone has fun people should continue the way they play.

[SugarD]

Compare the atmosphere of MTA:VC and the people who did that to the atmosphere of VC:MP and the people who do it there.MTA:VC doesn't have its server list occupied with DM servers by 99%

Maybe you don't know the history of why RP servers even exist then. Argonath RPG, and the community it spawned from on MTA:VC, ab RPG (<-Forum censor changed it to "ab"), were the FIRST two RP servers in EXISTENCE or ANY GTA multiplayer mod. They are the reason why RP exists today. If you had EVER played MTA:VC, you'd know that up to today, the ONLY TWO gamemodes it supports by default are Deathmatch and Stunt. That means even if the server name was <Community Name> RPG, the gamemode was still listed as Deathmatch. If you say MTA:VC didn't have DM'ers, then you seriously need to open your damn eyes. They still show up today because Argonath RPG is the only populated server left that survived the fall of ASE. DM'ers have always been an issue, ESPECIALLY because of the gamemode. Not even SA:MP had it as bad. The next time you go and talk shit, maybe you should get your facts straight first. I don't appreciate you bashing the server that is the whole reason why all your other precious servers even exist.

[TheBeesKnees]

how was argo mtavc in 2007 owners?

[SugarD]

how was argo mtavc in 2007 owners?

Amazing.

[JDC]

Unless the Developers or Admin Team in VC:MP are openly abusing their authority and breaking admins rules, I do not think there is anything to really worry about...

[Gandalf]

Unless the Developers or Admin Team in VC:MP are openly abusing their authority and breaking admins rules, I do not think there is anything to really worry about...

And if they do there is always [email protected]
Remember that not just the developers read it but owners as well.

[TheBeesKnees]

Amazing.

how?

[SugarD]

how?

Despite the rulebreakers, the simplistic RP was incredibly fun because users actually RP'ed and used their imaginations. They weren't dependent on scripts, ranks, status, or money. They just came up with creative ideas, respected each other, and had a great time. Still to this day many players believe MTA:VC's basic RP is extremely fun once you get used to it.

[Kessu]

@ Emre, I told you this last year also, stop shitting on VCMP if you don't understand it.

@ SugarD, Agreed (I didn't play MTAVC in 2007, but midway of 2008, tho' not so actively)

About handlung the DMers? I handle them with ease. First run away, tell them to stop, if they don't, kill 'em and afterwards tell them why not to DM. If they do stop, then explain what's the server is about and they become curious unless if they're hopeless cases that can't RP.

And about the comment "If every1 has fun, then it's the way to do it" I goddam agree with that 100%.

[Dexter]

Hehe. Don't ya peeps get sick and tired of this shit? I mean sure I did complain about this server too but after I saw that owners clearly have different vision about it than me..what's the point staying? And make that question to yourself too, peeps. If you do not like to play here..why staying? Just move along. And trying to make a difference when owners just calls you moaners or SAMPers..it's not worth it. For all those who likes to play here.good for you and enjoy your staying. But really is it worth to loose your mind over this? Both sides of this thing. just do stuff what you like to do. If it does not include playing here then fine go and have fun somewhere else, like me. And really waste of time if any of you start to question my loyalty for this server. I had loyalty for my vision but it was not going to be. So just drop this and keep playing and have fun!

[Gandalf]

Hehe. Don't ya peeps get sick and tired of this shit? I mean sure I did complain about this server too but after I saw that owners clearly have different vision about it than me..what's the point staying? And make that question to yourself too, peeps. If you do not like to play here..why staying? Just move along. And trying to make a difference when owners just calls you moaners or SAMPers..it's not worth it. For all those who likes to play here.good for you and enjoy your staying. But really is it worth to loose your mind over this? Both sides of this thing. just do stuff what you like to do. If it does not include playing here then fine go and have fun somewhere else, like me. And really waste of time if any of you start to question my loyalty for this server. I had loyalty for my vision but it was not going to be. So just drop this and keep playing and have fun!

I agree. If you do not like how things work on any server, you can always find another one.
And if not... then choose the best )us) amd stp[ trying to make it in to something that is boring.

[Emre]

@ Emre, I told you this last year also, stop shitting on VCMP if you don't understand it.

So what is it, that I don't seem to understand?Write it via fucking PM, there's no need to debate in here anymore.

[Gandalf]

So what is it, that I don't seem to understand?Write it via f**king PM, there's no need to debate in here anymore.
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Yeah make sure other people can not read and answer to anything...