To Gandalf

[Emre]

Yeah make sure other people can not read and answer to anything...

Just wanted to refrain from arguing in here again...

[Kessu]

I was on topic and not provoking you from my opinion, so there's no need to take it to PM. Otherwise, I would, believe me.

[Emre]

Otherwise, I would, believe me.

You would.I still prefer to do that via PM, if you respect that.

[Kessu]

You would.I still prefer to do that via PM, if you respect that.

For really son?
You really start provoking me when I finally try to have a f**king flameless conversation here? Flame removed. Ease up.

[Emre]

For really son?
You really start provoking me when I finally try to have a f**king flameless conversation here? Removed.

So why are you raging on me with vertical exaggeration?I just asked.

[Kessu]

So why are you raging on me with vertical exaggeration?I just asked.

Asking - as in your case telling - that I would lie that (which I have absolutely no reason to) was completely unnecessary, as was my flaming, but it is fucking right to flame the shit out of you since you come here saying what's wrong with the server you don't even fucking play... Come on, since when you were last time online? I've been here since january 2008 and always been happy with the server athmosphere and where it's going, which I still am doing.

Now please, stop acting like a retard and actually go post somewhere where you know how things are going. Not up for your shit once again.

[Emre]

Asking - as in your case telling - that I would lie that (which I have absolutely no reason to) was completely unnecessary, as was my flaming, but it is f**king right to flame the shit out of you since you come here saying what's wrong with the server you don't even f**king play... Come on, since when you were last time online? I've been here since january 2008 and always been happy with the server athmosphere and where it's going, which I still am doing.

Now please, stop acting like a retard and actually go post somewhere where you know how things are going. Not up for your shit once again.

It's never right to flame 'the shit out of somebody' , because
1)It's impolite
2)You're doing that over the internet, being an adult person.
3)You've got no guts to say that orly.

And while there are other people complaining about it ( though not playing it anymore either) you just look where I post and you pick me to bullshit at. You just had a fewer reason to interrogate into this than I had to continue.

Feel like going bitchy on me again? You're welcome to PM me, I'm not going to write here anymore(I suppose you are happy like never before now).

[SugarD]

Hey now children, no need to cause a public disturbance because you can't keep your hands out of your pants.

Seriously though, quit the fighting.

[Aragorn]

Hehe. Don't ya peeps get sick and tired of this shit? I mean sure I did complain about this server too but after I saw that owners clearly have different vision about it than me..what's the point staying? And make that question to yourself too, peeps. If you do not like to play here..why staying? Just move along. And trying to make a difference when owners just calls you moaners or SAMPers..it's not worth it. For all those who likes to play here.good for you and enjoy your staying. But really is it worth to loose your mind over this? Both sides of this thing. just do stuff what you like to do. If it does not include playing here then fine go and have fun somewhere else, like me. And really waste of time if any of you start to question my loyalty for this server. I had loyalty for my vision but it was not going to be. So just drop this and keep playing and have fun!

Oh, look who appeared... Telling us stories that you left this server cos this or that, then why fucking bothered to come here and put hidden crap once again?

You were one of those who started the crap, and I am sure you still continue it between others... It does not come just from intuition, it comes from shitters talks and credits... All of them operate to you... Which means you were openly against Klaus and wanted to remove him... Did not succeed and started crap privately...
The same time telling about your loyalty and leaving...

That's pathetic try... Phail...

[Aragorn]

Seems like you never visited the VC:MP server in 2009 and saw that we had so called RPs.

Sad to disappoint you I was...
2009 was right the year when SAMPers started turning server into crap with their lovely rules sets - do not fart, do not burp, do not shoot, do not breath....
For you it probably were golden times... For us - the beginning of moaning...

Klaus managed what you all did not... He make Community and the Community has fun... Klaus was the one developer who had no owners support unlike other servers... Community had fun and was active...
As soon as arrived mothers kids who cannot handle a gun and start crying at every shot they get VCMP slowely went down...

Yes I devided on VCMPers and SAMPers... Because from my position it is a very good view on the general routes... I know how do behave SAMPers... I know that 2009 was exactly when SAMPers came to VCMP... And I know the general moaning style, which could have only SAMPers... The style, which never was provided on MTA:VC, the style which never was provided on VCMP... It is like illness - moaning about everything, cannot handle guns and trying to ban someone else just cos you suck in shooting...

And yes, today it is pure cops v. robbers. Thanks for clarifying.

I suppose you did not want to turn my words that way... But as you did I will tell again: VICE CITY WAS ALWAYS COPS VS CRIMINALS (or cops vs robbers in your terminology even its a fake one)... Like you or not... And I even said that it is prooved BY SCRIP SUPPORT... Which fucking means that even script is based only on two roles - cops and criminals...

So to fuck your try to turn my words as if I clarified that it is NOW cops vs robbers, I will repeat: it was ALWAYS... If you did not know that - then who the fuck are you and what the fuck are you trying to spread here?

Stop freaking out and calling people pussies, nobody does that to you either.Oh yeah, there were DMers that understood the meaning how to roleplay in Vice City .

yeah there were... And one of them - me... You think I arrive to Vice City being a pure roleplayer? No... The first my visit to the RPG server I killed the seller in the shop... He told me in chat to try not to start killing every guy I see... I arrived to Vice City in a pure expection that I can be shot (multiplayer) or chased by cops (GTA)... And I had no ANY expectations that I must /me looks at the fly in the window...

For 2 weeks I was just shooting cops and running from them away, being killed in the end... And I liked it... Cos cops were not idiot-bots like in game...

I understood the Roleplay thingy only when one player asked me (I was again cop killer level) if I want him to be my Lawyer... And I agreed... He said to me not to do anything and let for him... And I agreed... I erned 3000$ from him (he made a deal with cop that I will surrender but for that cop needs to share amount between three of us)...

Note please: my game play was NOT disturbed at all... Nobody was kicking me, shitting me, knocking me, reporting me or banning me...

And what next? I liked such play and the next connect to the server list i tried to remember a server I had a big fun with cops vs criminals...

What does that bring now? Nobody asked about Event-ruin-punishments or anything near that.

Nobody even fucking demand... That was an example, you, prick...

I suppose if I collect hundreds of pictures containing abuse and all that f**king shit, I have a right to (what you so call) moan.
And again, you totally get off the subject lol.

Yeah that collection of one episode impressed me and Gandalf... Gandalf is still the White from being pissed off...

[SugarD]

Gandalf is still the White from being pissed off...

I'm sorry if offense is taken for this, not trying to find the hilarity of something so serious, but I've got to admit, I got a good laugh from that quote RON. I loved the LOTR humor in your response.

[Dexter]

Oh, look who appeared... Telling us stories that you left this server cos this or that, then why f**king bothered to come here and put hidden crap once again?

You were one of those who started the crap, and I am sure you still continue it between others... It does not come just from intuition, it comes from shitters talks and credits... All of them operate to you... Which means you were openly against Klaus and wanted to remove him... Did not succeed and started crap privately...
The same time telling about your loyalty and leaving...

That's pathetic try... Phail...

Oh look who bothers to actually respond to me now.. And excuse me? I started the shit?. It's clear that you are on Klaus side because you seem to have same goal for the server which does not match with mine. Lucky there that you are the owner and not me. And as long you call my visions crap so I do not agree with your crappy vision. And really kinda strong words from you to say that I wanted to remove Klaus. When things started to look bad I tried to get your attention and make a change. And what did you do? Again calling those who were concern as shitters. Very good *claps*. So who are you to judge my loyalty when you turn down this so called *moaners* group? You could easily make it more polite way but as it seems that your style is to actually try to disrespect them down, which I do not agree with also. And I had no intentionto continue this shit but as long you continue bullshitting on me..I'll answer.

[Gandalf]

Dexter does that mean our recent conversation was just pretending because you are afraid your status on IV:MP will be revoked ? If so then you better shut up...

[Dexter]

Dexter does that mean our recent conversation was just pretending because you are afraid your status on IV:MP will be revoked ? If so then you better shut up...

Nothing what I do is pretending. And I should just keep listening when I get blackmailed like this? I do have exactly same rights to express my opinions as he has. I don't like to go this hard but really that's not even fair to start to threat my position as IVMP mod. This case has nothing to do with it. I am cool with stopping now as long there will not be more crap on me.

[Gandalf]

Nothing what I do is pretending. And I should just keep listening when I get blackmailed like this? I do have exactly same rights to express my opinions as he has. I don't like to go this hard but really that's not even fair to start to threat my position as IVMP mod. This case has nothing to do with it. I am cool with stopping now as long there will not be more crap on me.

There will not be crap on you as soon as you stop crapping on Klaus and us for not following your precious ideas. If you want YOUR ideas to work, make your own server and stop bothering us.
If you want to stay here, it will always be OUR ideas to which a server will be working.
Yes we do listen to suggestions, but in the end we decide the direction of the servers. You can either accept that and stay or find another community.
You were together with Klaus developing the server, so you had every chance to work with him and make the server more to your liking. In an admin meeting where Klaus was not present you brought up that you could not get along with him. Aragorn asked you to try and sort out things, or make a meeting with him and us. A few days later we got the message you left. Problem solved.
Ever since then you have been trying to return to your position, and trying to backstab Klaus by spreading stories to everyone who would listen about what better job you would have done.
You should consider yourself extremely lucky that it was Klaus you were talking abotu and not Boromir, Aragorn or me, as in that case you would have been banned from here a long time ago.
If you are trying to turn IV:MP in to a similar SA:MP no-move no-shoot no-breathe style, then you might find it will not follow your ideas as well very soon. So better leave while you still can do it by yourself.