Grand Strategy/Paradox

[EenBeeFour]

I just got Crusader Kings 2, it's hard, but I'm getting the hang of it

People are telling me to start as a Duke because you don't have much responsibility and can learn about everything.

[Void]

I was wondering: Since I got Vicky2, what's the best strategy for Serbia?

Here's what I did:
1) Taxed the pops heavily so I can build something - had some bumps the first few years
2) Cement factory seemed appropriate so I built it
3) After messing around trade(still unfamiliar with this game aspect), I finally got something to work with
4) Amassed a decent army of 25k(with mobilization on) since my main neighbours are Austrian and Ottoman Empire
5) Luckily, Russia and Austria got into a war and I managed to add a wargoal on south Serbia and north Macedonia(They usually ally with Ottomans, I don't know why)
6) Got out alive from the war with the spoil(Lost 75% of my army)
7) Am going slowly bankrupt now and my pops are dissatisfied (I get spammed by events such as "Bulgarian martyr" in my south cores.)

What is the best way to get rid of infamy and use my industry the best way? I have timber potential in the south provinces but I don't know what to research to get the Mill. Any tips on how to get back on feet fast?

Thanks.

[ElMartu]

Serbia is a really hard nation because of the very low starting population and the dependance on other nations (Russia) to win your wars. You do not want to have any industry whatsoever, since you want your people to be Soldiers, not Craftsmen. There is probably little you can do to avoid bankruptcy, other than taxing your pops 100%, decreasing spendings (especially the National Stockpile) and increasing Tariffs by a bit, only a bit, because 100% leaves your pops with no money to gain taxes from. In short, I'd say you're pretty much fucked - try playing an easier nation.

I just got Crusader Kings 2, it's hard, but I'm getting the hang of it

People are telling me to start as a Duke because you don't have much responsibility and can learn about everything.

I haven't played CK2 at all but I hear any lord from Ireland is a good choice - you're left alone and can unify the island without too much outside interference.

[Ness]

I am made a big FUCK to turkey and all other fucks with SERBIA .
MARTU TELL THEM ABOUT IT

[Void]

Serbia is a really hard nation because of the very low starting population and the dependance on other nations (Russia) to win your wars. You do not want to have any industry whatsoever, since you want your people to be Soldiers, not Craftsmen. There is probably little you can do to avoid bankruptcy, other than taxing your pops 100%, decreasing spendings (especially the National Stockpile) and increasing Tariffs by a bit, only a bit, because 100% leaves your pops with no money to gain taxes from. In short, I'd say you're pretty much f**ked - try playing an easier nation.

I'll try to do something with it tomorrow. Will post some screen shots as well.
If anyone is interested in Vicky2 online, drop me a message.

[ElMartu]

Yeah Jay playing as mother russia helped tiny wimpy Ness-controlled Serbia become Yugoslavia. 

A vicky game can be arranged bro but we're mostly playing EU3. It's at about 9 PM CET onwards, every day. Just be sure you're available at least 5/7 days of the week if you want in, we're rather addicted to it.

[Ness]

f**k that, it was all me, motherf**ker. Martu, don't you remember how I invaded Russia and Jay was f**king begging me to stop, even threatening to quit the game? He even denies it when we tell everyone...

[EenBeeFour]

I haven't played CK2 at all but I hear any lord from Ireland is a good choice - you're left alone and can unify the island without too much outside interference.

Ireland is always the first country to get invaded by the English empire, I always play as my own as a duke between the two Papal provinces and attempt to become independent, which really isn't hard when you can pay for mercenaries and control the papal states since there is only 3 of them

A cool thing about the game is that there is an addon for a character creator, which is really fun because you can edit traits and all that.

[JayL]

f**k that, it was all me, motherf**ker. Martu, don't you remember how I invaded Russia and Jay was f**king begging me to stop, even threatening to quit the game? He even denies it when we tell everyone...

Why do you not question my abilities on this game like a man and back up your claims?
Or instead admit that you would have not learnt to play Vic2 without mine and Martu's help, and neither would you have taken any kebab soil without my military backing.

[EenBeeFour]

Why do you not question my abilities on this game like a man and back up your claims?
Or instead admit that you would have not learnt to play Vic2 without mine and Martu's help, and neither would you have taken any kebab soil without my military backing.

What version of Vic2 do you play? I'll play.

[Jubin]

f**k that, it was all me, motherf**ker. Martu, don't you remember how I invaded Russia and Jay was f**king begging me to stop, even threatening to quit the game? He even denies it when we tell everyone...

Really? That is something I would like to see, that how Serbia on his own without Russia's help would become Yugoslavia. As even if you see the Vicki2 wiki you'll see that:

Reclaiming Serbia

Immediately, or better, before you do this, get an alliance with Russia. If she doesn't accept first, try again. If you don't succeed the second time, start a new game, and try AGAIN. This is EXTREMELY important. Next, declare war on Austria to get Slavonia.

    Why Austria? Somehow, in 1.2, Russia is prone to lose against the Ottoman Empire, despite the superior numbers and equipment.

There is nothing much to do here. Try not to lose your army, and with some luck, Russia wins the war for you, AND she doesn't "liberate" West or East Galicia for herself, then you get Slavonia. Woops, Serbia, you got two regions! Congrats. If you lose, wait for the next war, or simply start another game.

So yeah, starting with Serbia ALWAYS includes having Russia help you out. Can't do anything on your own.

[ElMartu]

It's ness, jub, you just chuckle and say "sure thing bro "

[Ness]

It's ness, jub, you just chuckle and say "sure thing bro "

Thank you for backing me up. As you can see, Martu is vouching for my honesty and acknowledges that my statement was true...

[Jubin]

Thank you for backing me up. As you can see, Martu is vouching for my honesty and acknowledges that my statement was true...

sure thing bro
Post Merge: July 24, 2012, 02:15:17 pmAlthough I am sure most of the players here are aware of this place I'm still Just putting this link up here, for anyone who is interested of some General and also specific country hints/tips guides etc on all of the games discussed here.

http://www.paradoxian.org/

[ElMartu]

yeah the EU3 wiki is good

Victoria, not so much, almost nothing is updated to the new expansion