How VCPD armory should work, in criminal's eyes lolo

[Willy]

I don't like new regular players to sit on forums and put an bs application and wait for weeks just because they wanted to become a swat operative at that time.
You know what, we sit here and chit chat for fcking hours. No one becomes cop these days.

And add to it more: A heat system.
Some nubs just sit around in heli and run off and say: Fuck you cops, you cannot do anything. There are all unlocked vehicles all around vc. And what a cop got? 35 shotguns and colt? and a not synced millee.
And I have not seen anyone except Bass using Swat skin. The whole script shouldnt be made for just 2-3 players. Chance should be given to every playing guy at that time.
I dont care, if it takes us back to 1.1, atleast criminals had some competition and something worthy to fight for. (Like they should have in RL).

I can't even unlock bank robs for new comers these days because no one takes cop skin these days. And when i unlock it, Klaus set it to off. Heck what, the new comers are getting pissed because of this madness.

People are barking about there wanted level that they achieve these days. First Denlow created record, then Klaus, and now marcell is fcking trying it for months to beat Klaus's.
Get new comers swat and I will see how what you guys achieve. I mean Denlow played in early version, but there wasnt this madness.

[Morphine]

Some people are up for any challenge you know, even SWAT won't scare most of our regulars these days.

[Marcell]

It isn't even about challenge, it's the whole point of argonath vision and ARPD. It was always like that, want better equipment, want to join CIA/FBI/SWAT/SRU/VCID/GODf**kINGKNOWSWHAT, apply to ARPD. ARPD needs more members. You want to have a nice equipment? You need to prove you have common sense, roleplaying skills, and not being a deathmatcher in order to join ARPD. You only want new equipment to make fighting easier? Opsy daisy, rejected. New units are suspossed to bring more roleplay possibilities to cops (which well...they don't, except for VCID some days), not just easier ways to kill criminals. If we give every freecop, DMer or not, SWAT/SRU/VCID skin for just criminal kills, then whole server changes into SWAT patrolling with M60s, shooting wanted level 1 criminals with no warning. Besides, even the 'bad' cops would get SWAT/SRU/VCID skin, it would just take them less time. A guy like Veteran kills about 30 criminals each day, a guy like Maxtitan kills 1 a week. Veteran would get the skin in a week, Maxtitan would in few months. Veteran would use it when needed cause he needs challenge, Maxtitan would shoot everyone on sight with M60.

It was always like that. Criminals had more possibilities, less restrictions, however cops had more advantages yet more restrictions. For example cops can re-enter, criminals can not, criminals can buy M60, cops need to access special duties, BY APPLYING TO ARPD.

If your idea is brought to life, newbie criminals will stand no chance. And so what, are you really so mad about a nab who escapes in a heli? I was escaping with boat/helicopters alot of times, and the only times why cops let you go is cause they're too lazy, they just drive around cars hoping you will come on the land, which is bullshit.
When i play with cops like JDC, Veteran, Stormeus, everyone is f**king smart enough to take a goddamn police heli, try to take down my boat, eventually even hell, take a goddamn hunter. And cops are suspossed to co-operate, one stays on your tail using a car, increasing your heat, and the other one is suspossed to get a heli the time someones chasing you by a police car.

You're mad about cops sucking, lack of cops? blame VCPD, not lack of DMish scripts.

And overall, your post makes the server look like team deathmatch instead of roleplay server, maybe you need to chill down on XE. Now yes, I can't wait for amount of hate I will get within every member, cause 'marcell is bad marcell deathmatcher, lol marcell how u can accuse others of deathmatching cause u deathmatching morez!111' but really, I would like YOU to try to roleplay with shitload of money-hungry cops after their 70k paycheck. It ends with getting backstabbed, trust me...depends on the current cops, ofc

IF YOU WANT 20 COPS EACH DAY, ENCOURAGE NEWBIES TO JOIN VCPD. If they get denied, blame Leonardo. lololo

[JDC]

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Beats me.

Actually this is how we calculate it.



As for issue of cops, I believe the cop side needs some major fixes too, including but not limited to the following.
- Elevation of SWAT over SRU (SWAT is supposed to be the most skilled combat division).
- Better training for cops.
- More cops roleplaying with civilians and criminals (it's quite fun, actually).

[Marcell]

I heard SRU was suspossed to be a backup unit for regular officers, bringing roleplay, then noticed a new unit that gave weekend cops weapons for easier chasing/killing, and realised it's SRU..

[~Legend~]

There's a huge amount of discouragement towards people being cops - I've seen applicants put under why they want to join, things along the lines of "I don't want to be insulted that much", perhaps caused by newer players who are introduced into an anti-police environment, taking a good joke too far.

To an earlier post: the revised training methods are fine, and cover all the past loop holes. Really quite thorough so I don't think we need a change there.
Combat wise, ARPD was setting up a Combat Academy, specifically to work on specialised skills. But none of these make a lot of difference if people are not active, of course.

[Marcell]

I remember training muzdaaz when he was a cadet, on paruni

anyways. Really, every player just follows the way of criminal. Why? It's more fun, new players tend to fail at chases, and are OVERNUMBERED AND RAPED by criminals. Why? Cause we're move active than VCPD. Normally, a player who goes freecop should have support of few other VCPD officers, but that doesn't tend to happen too much.  Instead, he gets shot at, and quickly realises what's the cop's position on the server, and instead helps criminals. If he stays as a cop, it either means that he's dumb, determinated, or money-hungry. Or all three.

Really, if there would be 20 cops each day and EAF would be all inactive, I wouldn't just kill every money-hungry cop in my sight. Actually I wouldn't be a criminal at all, maybe. But now it's the other way around - 20 gangsters and VCPD inactive.

I'm sorry but it looks like Leo has lost his faith/hope/determination to run VCPD...I don't want to insult you or anything, but I think setting a new VCPD chief would sort out many things, especially if  he would be as active as we (gangs) are

[~Legend~]

I think many are drawn in by the 'free bounds' idea that criminals have; essentially allowing them to make their chases, create their moods and characters if you like - which is absolutely fine, and a great thing to see.

VCPD's working on two new 'features' right now. One is directly to pull up those that are inactive, and in a strategic way which should be beneficial overall. The other is slightly on another route, and could hopefully add a new level of roleplay. Time will tell, but it definitely isn't a one man show.
A number of people aren't satisfied by certain things.

You could break it down into the idea of clans and groups. If you are keen on combat-related jobs, and criminal activities you would most likely be drawn into a gang or a group, rather than a clan - as that gives you access to new options, such as Gang HQs and other possibilities. If you are in a clan, and despite it being all round for instance, you would have to keep purchasing individual weapons and work up on your own or go for the police route.

[JDC]

Once the Second Agency is up, there should be more law enforcement...

[detective_perry]

VCPD chief: Leonardo. VCMP: inactive SAMP: active
SWAT chief: Drix: Inactive, Recruits: inactive money munchers who use SWAT and spazzes to chase a guy who stole a bubble gum.
VCID members: sitting 10 hours a day playing VCMP ARgo, criminal time: 9 hours 50 minutes, cop time: 10 minutes.
Excuses of VCID members not to go on duty: "im not in teh mood"

Don't get mad at me, this is a fact and this should be solved. If you don't have time or don't want to do your duty, then resign it and hand it to someone who will actually do the job they're supposed to do.

Don't get me wrong, there are good active cops, who don't inject heroin and extacy while on SWAT duty *cough* Helix *cough*.

[JDC]

I'm always on VCID Duty.

[Morphine]

1. I trained muzdaaz Partially
6. That's the formula for finding the moaners here.
Pi=Guess who..
2. I know a guy who'd fit well for ARPD No, not tot..

[Klaus]

Get an active leader for ARPD. That'll be a good start.

[Morphine]

Any offers?

[Kessu]

Any offers?

Legend for one..

ARPD truly needs some quality members, and I actually agree with Marcell there. I loved 1.1, I still do love the SWAT skin with free M60 against me when am on a PCJ, but what the hell, I think the new ones are better since not everyone can go and rape everyone with M60 anymore, but needs to either do something illegal or join ARPD.