Statement from Owners...

[Aragorn]

I see started old as gamers' world accusations and tricks...

1. Asslicking...

The one who ass licking here - those who were warned or banned for total disrespect towards players and the same time immediately changed their tone in this topic...

Asslicking is when you do hate or dislike the guy but have to treat him as if you do like him cos he has more powers... So there is no difficulty to see who is the real asslicker...

2. Gang wars...

If you are former deathmatchers (and you are) you should know that any game wars are based on equal fun and respecting each other... If the war is based on disrespect it is just a flaming tool, nothing more... And usually DM clans do deny such invitations by one reason - game is for fun and not for finding the ways for a shitty attitude...

3. About cockroaches...

It was not meant to everyone who wants to be back on server after owners' actions but about flame comments towards punished people...

However those who are punished should think now twice why the comments in this topic were allowed... Trust me not for continuing flame... But this also showed me more positions of punished players, at least I can see that they will not be changed... The level of personal hate in VCMP community reached its top I noticed...

4. Actions after topic...

[EAF]Klaus lost his leader's position due to the nazi comment in this topic... Calling the administrative action for disrespect towards player's country a shame ban was the last dot in his career... Though he was already warned by owners in the past about any anti-country/nation/race flame on server... Seems like we talked to the deff/blind guy or Klaus have no idea what is a nazism... Not knowing the Law does not free people from responcibility...

[EAF]Kessu was banned from server due to his admitting about his flame and responcibility that he will not stop his attitude... We are not a babysitters everytime to calm him down... If guy cannot handle his hormons it is the problem of his girlfriend or his left hand, not an Argonath owners...

5. About VCMP future...

Yes we will arrange a chat with the server players to know you better and to know your thought and at least for some interaction... I will also appear on server periodically, though does not mean on my own nick...
I also would like to talk to scripting team about issues and developing status...

As about admins team, we will recheck each admin online ourselves or we will send our visors... Because from all admins boards I do not see any movements/actions/activity...

6. About EAF Clan...

If some clan members (especially leaders) will continue their "style" we will close the clan... So the clan's future is in hands of clans members themselves...

7. About owners' way of reaction...

We've just mirrored your shithead attitude to you back... If you do not like it, then you knew what were you doing with OUR players on server, if you do like it - go see the doctor, the good one...

That's all folks...

[stormeus]

Understood, but I'm gonna drop a couple of comments.

5. About VCMP future...

Yes we will arrange a chat with the server players to know you better and to know your thought and at least for some interaction... I will also appear on server periodically, though does not mean on my own nick...

Cool. Are you gonna be on for Argo Independence Day?

I also would like to talk to scripting team about issues and developing status...

Would be glad to, but check your PMs, please.

As about admins team, we will recheck each admin online ourselves or we will send our visors... Because from all admins boards I do not see any movements/actions/activity...

That's mainly because we don't have much to report on. A lot of our players are either banned for hacking or DMing, and the bans database has been down since the hack. Everything's pretty much been okay up to this point, in my opinion, but yeah, there should be some more communication between admins.

That's all for now.

[Willy]

Is server down because of this?

[Gandalf]

Server is running, report any downtime to me as KLaus can no longer restart.
What I would like to add to Dylan and Jason... you were banned for valid reasons.
Jason was denied for ban evadfing, to which you have admitted.

[Morphine]

Quite interesting.. I do not want to get political but..

How exactly did Klaus support the Nazi regime? Why would someone from the United Kingdom, a country which was in a bloody war with the Nazis back in the World War days, suddenly support them? I mean if Winston Churchill didn't like the Nazis, neither would someone 60-70 years later. (Klaus) If of course, you will give us exact quotes from the logs supporting your statement, I will happily cross this paragraph out.

I know that people like Salmonella are probably shitting their pants out of joy because of what they read today/yesterday but let me tell you what, everyone makes mistakes and YES, EAF did make mistakes. If we stepped into this shit together we shall step out if it together too and no one, especially you, can hinder us from that.

Now I know that I'm fairly new to the EAF gang myself but having lead another gang myself in Argonath VC:MP for the past 7 months has given me a lot of experience while playing with EAF and I can say that no commotion as big as this one has happened until yesterday, when Aragorn created the topic.

If indeed all this happened because of clan discrimination / national discrimination, racial insults, deathmatching and such I see no other way than for everyone including myself to apologise and let the case lay still. What's done is done.

I admit myself to being very harsh at times and that I've insulted many people while I've been in Argonath RPG. Hereby, I wish to apologise to anyone reading this who was potentially harmed by my behavior. I think co-operation of both sides will perhaps cool down the heat with which this topic was made.

[Gandalf]

No cooperation from our side needed. We are not the ones who are using racial and discriminating language, making people quit the server...

[Morphine]

There's not many in EAF who are/were that way either.
Apart from Marcell, Perry and Kessu perhaps, no one went for discrimination.

[[3sS]Dylan]

Gandalf, look this is what we're explaining aLl the time! We're trying to say that it was wrong and we sure learned our lesson! That's why we opened a new unban request to do the process slightly over again. And to clear things up. I'm nkt banned but even i've learned about jasons ban. And that pist on EAF forums? Yeah well. That was because it was more like a warning towards them. Not meand as an insult in amy direction!

I hoped this cleared things a bit up.

Regards,
Dylan

[Kessu]

There's not many in EAF who are/were that way either.
Apart from Marcell, Perry and Kessu perhaps, no one went for discrimination.

I have never been discriminating in VCMP and if I have I want proofs for it. I flame alot, but I never discriminate.

[Gandalf]

Gandalf, look this is what we're explaining aLl the time! We're trying to say that it was wrong and we sure learned our lesson! That's why we opened a new unban request to do the process slightly over again. And to clear things up. I'm nkt banned but even i've learned about jasons ban. And that pist on EAF forums? Yeah well. That was because it was more like a warning towards them. Not meand as an insult in amy direction!

I hoped this cleared things a bit up.

Regards,
Dylan

And who are you to warn EAF ?

[Marcus]

Gandalf, look this is what we're explaining aLl the time! We're trying to say that it was wrong and we sure learned our lesson! That's why we opened a new unban request to do the process slightly over again. And to clear things up. I'm nkt banned but even i've learned about jasons ban. And that pist on EAF forums? Yeah well. That was because it was more like a warning towards them. Not meand as an insult in amy direction!

I hoped this cleared things a bit up.

Regards,
Dylan

When the f**k will you shut up? Srsly.. Stop asslicking.
No disrespect.

Kind regards.

[[3sS]Dylan]

Hmmm,
I didn't knew it will piss people off like that. I thought it wasn't that much. And marcus. There i no need to start raging. You tell me this in a normal way. If it hurted to many souls i apologise this wasnt my intention.

Regards,
Dylan

[Morphine]

Of course it's not your intention, that's why you have a trollface as your picture.

[Aragorn]

I do suppose the EAF guys do not understand the situation due to beeing covered by server leader/clan leader Klaus all the time and with that had no possibility to see the situation from a normal players' side...

One just "sometimes" insults players, other just sometimes flames people, third member sometimes spreads a shit about players' countries, before that was a case with EAF members using admins announcements (screen text for all server players) with a total racial shit against black people, When there is some "Hey I am back" topic immediately appear all the same "EAF peacemakers" who shit the guy instead of warm welcoming... And all this crap is covered by Klaus...

Dear EAF members who are involved (as I see there are more flamers in this clan then I thought) who the f**k are you to think that people should live with your shit? Are there any brains in your heads to understand a simple thing - here lil flame there lil flame in total gives a flood of bullcrap...

Besides it I do not like when someone shits his pants and runs to dig others dirty pants in laundry baskets to get some proofs he is not the one with poop accident...

Though, very good that you admit flame towards other players but as soon as you do not change yourself and do not apologize - this admittion is a teens crap who like to be cool by flaming others...
Grow balls, telling stories what a big flamers you are is not impressing me... I myself can flame you down from bottom to heads... But changing your attitude to people - this is the one which can be respected...

Now, as we cleared out everything from this topic for us (thanks for "discussions"), I can lock it...

Time is moving forward and not sit with old year shit...

[Boromir]

It is quite fucking interesting to see how those players, who refused to accept my warnings in the past, now acknowledge their wrongdoings because of the owners' presence. I won't even bother to name those players as they themselves already know.