Clarification of the new advertisement rule.

[SugarD]

So you're saying we are in-fact allowed to disguise or ads to seem legal as it does not trespass the boundaries of roleplay, and rather allows for more interesting ones to take place?

From the sounds of it, yes. It seems that the illegal ad itself is not a rulebreak, but the fact that it's "trespassing the boundaries of roleplay" as he said is the issue, so disguising it with legal things that you are prepared to sell as a front shouldn't break this rule, although I can't confirm this myself.

[TheGreasyChopper]

Sugar's first post in this topic says it all, ye want to sell heroin/weed or any drugs? Grab a Mr Whoopee and sell "Ice Cream" just like in the Vice City Singleplayerer missions. Tough, what about illegal adverts of selling Roleplaying drugs/conflict diamonds or anything like that? For example, back in the days I had a big scale of Conflict Diamonds market, selling RP diamonds. Will I get punished if I advert a roleplaying business?

[Antonio.]

This makes it more realistic for criminals and more difficult. When illegal advertisements were made, cops didn't even react at them 90 percent of time. Now criminals will need to communicate among each others more realistically to be able to buy and sell illegal goods.

[BlackEagle]

I gave up about the term "realism" in Argonath more than a year ago. Now I am on the GTAism side

[SugarD]

I gave up about the term "realism" in Argonath more than a year ago. Now I am on the GTAism side

Well it all depends on what you mean by realism too. Some people think it means strict RP based on how things IRL work exactly word for word, others see it as something where the RP is GTA-based, but more of a fun form of real life, similar to games like the Sims with which you pretend to play a life role without all the complicated details. Unfortunately, because people have different views of this same thing, there's heavy conflict over the term when it's used in Argonath because of it's many meanings, so people tend to assume it's either to break the Argo Vision, or it's to make everything how that one person sees it should be. I like your example though. The only reason why I refrain from saying things should be like GTA is because the single-player itself has many aspects which we don't use or allow in Argo itself, such as randomly running around blowing people's heads off for our own amusement lol. I wish there was a better way to describe things in a way we could all understand without conflict.

[Jaaskaa]

Thumb up to SugarD, he got it all right.

Illegal ads that suggest illegal activity are illegal, especialy if too obvious. Use your creativity.

[Biggo2]

Thumb up to SugarD, he got it all right.

Illegal ads that suggest illegal activity are illegal, especialy if too obvious. Use your creativity.

Creativity got me kicked numerous times.

[SugarD]

Creativity got me kicked numerous times.

Got to conceal it a little better then. If the cops won't know, the admins won't either

[Biggo2]

Got to conceal it a little better then. If the cops won't know, the admins won't either

All of the /ad's made to purchase illegal materials are obvious. But I don't think 'Purchasing Petrol canisters - $80/galon' is a good enough excuse to kick for it?

[Jaaskaa]

Don't go purchasing/selling in /ad ... Already too obvious... ``Selling yellow sugar`` for example is damn obvious ... ``Buying heat system`` ... ``Selling metal`` ... I have seen them....

Instead, use a code to tell you are in business or looking for business ... Find a way to make contact, not to directly sell.

Once you get a dealer or customer, keep their number and call them, offering them a 10% discout on electronic appliance... But seriously do something creative ...

[Aragorn]

Now what is this all crap about???

Who and why the fuck started pointing here that Aragorn made an unwritten rule? Reffering to my post they did fucking missed (on purpose for sure) my words:

It is not the case of ban, but if player continues advertisements after admin warning he can be punished more...

What is not clear here? It is not a rule, it is a directive... Admins are acting if player IGNORES admins directive...

Now about Illegal adverticements where from it all came...

From you, my dear moaners...

Once there were illegal ads... Cops were suspecting those with ads immediately... Lets guess what kind of moaning was on Argonath... Oh shi....!!!! Cops are abusers!!!... Explanations that cops have all rights to suspect player even without being near him did not help... You, my dear moaners, already forgot that stuff, yeah? Well, some of you do not remember as it was a long time ago...

As usual cops are guilty on Argonath... Cops saw ads and suspected... That criminals moaned as abuse... And what? To allow criminals to advertise an illegal stuff - cops come with misunderstanding (and I can understand them)... Why the fuck guys are advertising heroin and weed on all country and cops are not allowed to suspect them even...

But that was not the end of the story... Illegal ads were used by those who did not want to kill cop but wanted to be wanted to get the "official" right to kill... And server was flooded of illegal stuff...

Since that time the patience finished and illegal ads on server were stopped as a non roleplay stuff, which brings confuses as well and leads to incorrect actions/reactions...

As a non roleplay stuff it can be warned by admin...

Now all moaners calm down, take a breath and read again what was said here... And do realize that you started a hell of loud arguing about... nothing...

And the last... Those who will try to avoid this directive by any ways will be really punished... For doing it on purpose (cheating)...

As for new players who do not know about illegal ads - as I said - there is no any threat - admin just explains him, warns if repeats and thats all...

Topic locked...

I will not for sure write the THIRD explanation... Either go read my posts or use search engine on forums...