Too Young To Remember 9/11/01?

[Squeak]

ITT: Propaganda

Also, Linda Ellerbee hasn't died yet? Someone needs to get rule 34 on her, right now.

[Cofiliano]

Alright, I will. I'm currently watching "Zeitgeist - The Movie" right now.
It's about USA as well and all this shit, the start of it has been incredibly good if you haven't seen it.

Two years ago almost:

Cofi-"If you want to watch a real documentary about it, watch Zeitgeist 1/2/3"

Que-"Nah it sucks I just watched the tralier."

[Squeak]

Zietgeist is a little too farfetched. It sounds like too much of the plot of a novel.

[SugarD]

Well the idea of Zeitgeist is to show the information in the most unbiased way possible, which is obviously nearly impossible given the fact that their information is denied by the U.S. Government as even existing, and overall they want you to build your own conclusions.

[Que]

Just watched the second part about nine eleven and it's quite frightening that the truth is still remained hidden. Most of the Americans still believe it was the terrorists, which is completely hilarious to be honest.

Two years ago almost:

Cofi-"If you want to watch a real documentary about it, watch Zeitgeist 1/2/3"

Que-"Nah it sucks I just watched the tralier."

Me two years ago couldn't be annoyed to even watch the trailer.

[SugarD]

Just watched the second part about nine eleven and it's quite frightening that the truth is still remained hidden. Most of the Americans still believe it was the terrorists, which is completely hilarious to be honest.

It goes much farther than most could even imagine, even beyond what that movie shows. All those government conspiracies that movies are made about barely even touch the truths hidden from the public.

[Gandalf]

Zeitgeist is, like most conspiracy theories, too far fetched and large parts can be debunked by showing other footage. However it is good as a diversion from what really happened, as the truth would be more shocking to some.

[Dolfagr]

If it was indeed a setup by the US Government then it was the biggest atrocity a government has ever committed to it's citizens in the whole world. If there is concrete evidence that it was set up by US Government do you have an idea what will happen?

[Gandalf]

If it was indeed a setup by the US Government then it was the biggest atrocity a government has ever committed to it's citizens in the whole world. If there is concrete evidence that it was set up by US Government do you have an idea what will happen?

Some heads of organizations will get fired, some countries will protest, and a lot of people will try to sue the already bankrupt US of A.
The President will declare that his Office was unaware, and the responsible service will tell that it was a necessary move in order to remove unwanted governments in the Middle East and point out that the number of casualties wwas lower as in the subsequent conflicts.

After one month of media hype, all will continue as it was.

[[SE]Dr_Pepper27]

i mean...

This site sums everything up...


http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=911_morons

[SugarD]

i mean...

This site sums everything up...


http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=911_morons

I will agree that the dollar bill thing is just clever BS that someone came up with, as are many mysteries behind it's design, but the footage from 9/11 was not old. Much of it can be found from actual news cameras and recently released video under the FOIA which shows the stuff he simply zoomed in on. Regardless of any of this, the fact that the buildings were designed to take multiple planes at every angle suggests that something is wrong here. Even if you argue that back then they couldn't forsee a jet this large hitting it, you can't explain melted steel. Jet fuel, just like gasoline, in a liquid or air form will ignite and instantly burn up upon contact with fire. Even the explosion that causes would not be enough to melt steel. It's a few thousand degrees too cold for that. There are also many claims from building inspectors, designers, etc. that can even attest to the fact that the building came down demolition style, and the only way for that to be possible was if there were explosives lined along the shaft of the building's core. There's also no explanation for the clean-cut metal, or the small explosions seen alongside the buildings before their collapse. Even if you don't agree that it's a government conspiracy, it's still a clear fact that we were lied to about the truth. There's too much evidence disputing what the U.S. Government stated, and for that I will never forgive them.

[[SE]Dr_Pepper27]

The metal used would begin to bend at 625 degrees, the temperature was around 800+ or so(if my memory is correct) Obviously if something bends it will collapse. the demolition style, well I can logically say that if you stack people and one broke they wouldn't fall to the side, they would fall straight down.

To be honest, I know the Government isn't always truthful, but what exactly would their reason be to lie about this event? And like the site said, why would they allow someone to live that could possibly expose their plans, I mean they already killed 3000, what's 1 or 2 more?

 

[SugarD]

The metal used would begin to bend at 625 degrees, the temperature was around 800+ or so(if my memory is correct) Obviously if something bends it will collapse. the demolition style, well I can logically say that if you stack people and one broke they wouldn't fall to the side, they would fall straight down.

To be honest, I know the Government isn't always truthful, but what exactly would their reason be to lie about this event? And like the site said, why would they allow someone to live that could possibly expose their plans, I mean they already killed 3000, what's 1 or 2 more?

 

If steel contains more than 0.021% carbon at steelmaking temperatures then it transforms into a face-centered cubic (FCC) structure, called austenite or y-iron. It is also soft and metallic but can dissolve considerably more carbon, as much as 2.1% carbon at 1,148 degrees C (2,098 degrees F), which reflects the upper carbon content of steel.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steel

That is low-grade steel, and that is still hotter than the temperature of the explosions or fire. The WTC used high-grade construction steel.

To be honest, I know the Government isn't always truthful, but what exactly would their reason be to lie about this event? And like the site said, why would they allow someone to live that could possibly expose their plans, I mean they already killed 3000, what's 1 or 2 more?

Because they don't always kill someone who tries to expose them. Sometimes it looks better for them if a conspirist doesn't end up dead. There are more ways to cover something up than killing someone. That's why there are many known government conspiracies that still exist today.

[Squeak]

Stop talking about politics before I talk about religion.

[SugarD]

Stop talking about politics before I talk about religion.

We aren't discussing politics. We are discussing the World Trade Center's collapse and the ideas behind what really happened.