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[Ted]

The warnings i have known for them to mainly occur when someone enters a vehicle, usually as a passenger.

[Malcolm]

The warnings i have known for them to mainly occur when someone enters a vehicle, usually as a passenger.

That is true. Also a pattern I had noticed from this topic, the old topic made by Murt, and a topic on the admin section made by Leroy.

[SugarD]

The warnings i have known for them to mainly occur when someone enters a vehicle, usually as a passenger.

Ya, a user a couple posts back said the same as well. He mentioned that he was on police duty when it happened, and it was just after logging in with some extra pepper spray from a SWAT training previously, and that he also had another mod installed. I know Trane mentioned the bug once in the past on ARPD forums, and he has SWAT rights, but Idk any other specifics of his situation aside from that. The SWAT thing could be purely a coincidence though.

Anyone here gotten the bug as a driver?

Edit: Checked Vladimir_Gvardia's unban request. Seems he got it as a driver, so I guess that pattern is out. He obviously doesn't have SWAT rights either, so it's not that. His screenshot did show it spamming though, so maybe something triggers the weapon hack bug instead of opcodes due to the server's handling of opcodes that normally lead to users being removed or the client crashing. Anyone know what weapons are being reported as hacked?

Edit 2: Upon further research, SeanC was banned for ELM's issue for attempting to spawn a chainsaw. Anyone know if this is the only weapon popping up?

Edit 3: Lol I'm spamming my own post. Apologies, but adding stuff as I discover it. Apparently it's being reported as both restricted and regular weapons, so that pattern is out. Someone mentioned it happening under CLEO 3 and they only have ELM, and another user said CLEO 4, so no pattern there. Many users said they only had ELM installed as well.

Edit 4: Since ELM hasn't changed in awhile and this is much more recent, the only thing I can think of is CLEO itself causing it, but that doesn't make since unless it's an issue that existed since CLEO 3 at minimum, but then it would have popped up sooner. This must be a change on the server that has caused this, even if unintentionally. It may not be a bug on it's own, but something server-side that was modified in the scripts is obviously conflicting with one of the mods themselves, as I said was my belief before.

This would be more of a question for the Devs, but were there any changes to the admin or weapon systems around the time this issue started popping up? It's possible that a scripting function or piece of code in the script conflicts with the mod's memory and triggers this. So many users have ELM and CLEO installed, so for this to be random means a specific thing must be done for it to pop up. Every pattern I've seen so far gets debunked by another user. Anything else anyone can think of?

[Nathan]

Great, you know a latin quote, but not really applicable here because people do not KNOW that CLEO does anything wrong, thus nothing dissuades them from downloading it.

Not knowing the law doesn't excuse you from it. If you shoot a gun at a person and you don't know that you can go to jail for that, you will still go to jail.

[Salmonella]

A simple question about ELM turned into a topic about SWAT, admins, users and Argo once again thanks to our good friend.........

[SugarD]

A simple question about ELM turned into a topic about SWAT, admins, users and Argo once again thanks to our good friend.........

No. If you bothered to read, I said I was looking for patterns regarding the cause of the weapon hacks bug ELM caused. Thanks for provoking me though.

[9r2e5i3k]

Rule still stands. I do not understand the whole dragging of the argument.

[SugarD]

The argument dropped awhile ago. We were discussing the pattern to see if we could find a cause of the actual issue before his comment was posted.

Again, trying to get back on topic here, has anyone else recognized any other patterns I didn't mention?

[Murt]

The argument dropped awhile ago. We were discussing the pattern to see if we could find a cause of the actual issue before his comment was posted.

Again, trying to get back on topic here, has anyone else recognized any other patterns I didn't mention?

Pattern and pattern, what I can say regarding my experience with the weapon spawn is that when a player enters a passenger sometime, do not occur often but sometime it make them spawn the restricted weapons. To be noted, this have only happened to players with ELM and CLEO. How I handled it today when it happened was to kick the player and told him to remove the ELM and CLEO and it stopped. The funny thing when the player reconnected it was totally fine. But later on when he entered the vehicle again as a passenger the weapons started to spawn again.

[SugarD]

Pattern and pattern, what I can say regarding my experience with the weapon spawn is that when a player enters a passenger sometime, do not occur often but sometime it make them spawn the restricted weapons. To be noted, this have only happened to players with ELM and CLEO. How I handled it today when it happened was to kick the player and told him to remove the ELM and CLEO and it stopped. The funny thing when the player reconnected it was totally fine. But later on when he entered the vehicle again as a passenger the weapons started to spawn again.

Hmm...maybe something in the player's behavior is causing them to repeat the specific situation that triggers the bug. Given what you described, that's the only thing I can think of. Do you know what the player did before entering the vehicle off-hand?

[Murt]

Hmm...maybe something in the player's behavior is causing them to repeat the specific situation that triggers the bug. Given what you described, that's the only thing I can think of. Do you know what the player did before entering the vehicle off-hand?

No actually not, but when he had removed ELM and CLEO it stopped. But first after he got kicked he returned and everything was fine. When he entered the police cruiser he started to spawn restricted weapons again.

[SugarD]

No actually not, but when he had removed ELM and CLEO it stopped. But first after he got kicked he returned and everything was fine. When he entered the police cruiser he started to spawn restricted weapons again.

Damn. One of the users reported was on a bike, and I know ELM slightly treats the two differently. Doesn't look like it's a pattern in vehicles then either. :S

[newton_alex]

the pattern is all the users had fucking CLEO and ELM...simple: ban cleo and elm.

[EminemRulez]

Don't install mods and your ignorance wont get you banned.

He's trying to point out the hacked weapons and their connection with CLEO, not that he has been banned for it.
I'm pretty sure he came here for answers and not to be called ignorant - how you expect players to follow the rules if you're disrespecting 'em?


CLEO should be prohibited then - before real hackers use it as an excuse to be unbanned..
Plus ELM is pretty lame :razz:

[Malcolm]

He's trying to point out the hacked weapons and their connection with CLEO, not that he has been banned for it.
I'm pretty sure he came here for answers and not to be called ignorant - how you expect players to follow the rules if you're disrespecting 'em?

Read the first page again to see who he is actually responding to instead of just commenting something posted two days ago..