about wallglitching

[Marcell]

if this isn't allowed

(note: it gives no advantage (since anyone can get behind your back in combat, others can just get cover in order to avoid getting shot) besides you can graphically see (no im not comparing game to RL) that you could just hold the gun over the wall and shoot.)

then this shouldn't be allowed too



people should learn difference between wall glitching and getting cover - simply enough to put it, wallglitching - shooting literally through a wall whereas normally it SHOULDNT be possible. ex: shooting through biker bar walls

[Willy]

Someone got pissed ingame?? lolo

[Marcell]

Someone got pissed ingame?? lolo

/c warn marc wallglitch
/c warn marc wallglitch
/c report marc bug abuse

[Kessu]

If warns start to come from that, then whole server should be informed about the rule change (it has NEVER been disallowed from players, only something like biker's bar wall).

IMO nothing wrong with what Marcell pics shows.

[stormeus]

Glitching has never been allowed, but if you won't take my word for it, take Gandalf's.

[Kessu]

So that means this then; No sniping behind walls, cars, anything. You have to be standing on ground that has no cover at all whatsoever.

Crouch is basically not allowed except of areas with no walls, cars, anything that you can crouch behind and shoot.

Which means, if this rule is enforced from spots that Marcell's pics shows, it takes away any tactical shooting position that you could possibly have, making every single player whine if someone crouches behind car and shoots from there. Simply because it's a glitch because you CANNOT shoot back.

If so, I will use /c report on every single one doing that, even if it is owner/new player/reqular.

[Marcell]

'A second reason is that by using a vehicle to kill someone you do not get suspected'
lolwut? was the message regarding to MTA:VC or something? Since it DOESN'T happen here. People DO get (auto) suspected for carkilling.

and both you and me know that it's ridiculous that 'combat glitches' are allowed yet glitches like wall glitch aren't, he, he. Why? cause it makes no sense. Wall glitch is as big 'combat glitch' as ghost-shooting is...

[stormeus]

lolwut? was the message regarding to MTA:VC or something? Since it DOESN'T happen here. People DO get (auto) suspected for carkilling.

and both you and me know that it's ridiculous that 'combat glitches' are allowed yet glitches like wall glitch aren't, he, he. Why? cause it makes no sense. Wall glitch is as big 'combat glitch' as ghost-shooting is...

That's not my issue. Talk to Gandalf about it. Any administrator can punish for any glitch.

So that means this then; No sniping behind walls, cars, anything. You have to be standing on ground that has no cover at all whatsoever.

Crouch is basically not allowed except of areas with no walls, cars, anything that you can crouch behind and shoot.

Not true. You're still allowed to crouch and shoot, but you're not allowed to use the stubby crouch-glitch, since it's the only weapon affected by crouching. You can shoot and take cover, but you can't shoot THROUGH a wall, THROUGH an interior, or SLIDE intentionally or bypass the shooting animation.

Which means, if this rule is enforced from spots that Marcell's pics shows, it takes away any tactical shooting position that you could possibly have, making every single player whine if someone crouches behind car and shoots from there. Simply because it's a glitch because you CANNOT shoot back.

See above.

If so, I will use /c report on every single one doing that, even if it is owner/new player/reqular.

Alright, looking forward to it.

[Kessu]

That's not my issue. Talk to Gandalf about it. Any administrator can punish for any glitch.
Not true. You're still allowed to crouch and shoot, but you're not allowed to use the stubby crouch-glitch, since it's the only weapon affected by crouching. You can shoot and take cover, but you can't shoot THROUGH a wall, THROUGH an interior, or SLIDE intentionally or bypass the shooting animation.
See above.
Alright, looking forward to it.

Crouch behind car & shoot through the car is as huge advantage as is in Marcell's pic. Either disallow all or don't disallow it. Only clear ones where you just simply can't shoot thru' (biker's bar window/wall). Just saying, it creates much confusion between members and admins of what you can do and what not anymore. It had always, and I mean ALWAYS been allowed to shoot "through" something like that, even in MTA:VC...

[Marcell]

pfff.. I never SAW anyone, I mean ANYONE, (and i played for 10 months) get punished for rapid fire while crouching (using a stubby). I mean it.
How are you gonna punish people for using undetectable glitches? ex: ghost shooting. Jumping while getting hit in order to avoid falling down is a bug as well (due to how VC handles animations) wanna punish ppl for that as well?

VCMP has way too many glitches to punish for all of them. Blame Max or disable fast-switch, i don't know

[Kessu]

Yh, the combat glitches give way much more advantage that wallglitch.

I'd like Gandalf to clear this situation out. If someone gets mad 'cos he gets owned by the way he uses himself, and that's the reason of disallowing something that is as "gray" as this is, is something.. Meh.

[Klaus]

Firstly, storm please remember that stuff in the admin section, stays in the admin section. This is an important forum rule that you seem to have forgotten.

Now just to clear up a few things, glitching has always been allowed. If it wasn't everyone in this topic would be banned, including myself. All glitching is allowed.

[Kessu]

Firstly, storm please remember that stuff in the admin section, stays in the admin section. This is an important forum rule that you seem to have forgotten.

Now just to clear up a few things, glitching has always been allowed. If it wasn't everyone in this topic would be banned, including myself. All glitching is allowed.

Glitch such as biker's bar is not allowed, 'cos it's clear glitch (you can't even see the window from outside, nor shoot thru it)

Otherwise, that is true.

[Call_me_Dad]

We will discuss this in Admin section.

If there are any other conflicts/confusions in rules, let the Administration know.
Hopefully everything will be sorted before we release v2.0

[Kessu]

For now, it goes like before? Doing as Marcell's pic shows or? Just in need of confirmation so I don't get in trouble.