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Internet Censorship in United States

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Reply #30 on: November 23, 2011, 05:45:10 am
If 9/11 and war can happen, then this can happen. :D
9/11 was a terrorist attack, it had no judges or anything.

Your country's government constantly boasts about how democratic it is and how the whole world should copy it, yet you all live under a dictatorship of money and now the government wants a slice of this ''dictatorial powers'' cake. So I don't think the chances are slim.
Before you judge a country and throw out accusations, come live here for awhile. Remember, not everything you hear about America is true.



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Reply #31 on: November 23, 2011, 06:34:01 am

This appears to start becoming an "america sucks" topic. Please be careful of what you are saying. 

If 9/11 and war can happen, then this can happen. :D

Exactly, what do you mean. This is the choice of elected members, not a bunch of terrorist.

Your country's government constantly boasts about how democratic it is and how the whole world should copy it, yet you all live under a dictatorship of money and now the government wants a slice of this ''dictatorial powers'' cake. So I don't think the chances are slim.

Please understand the values of a "democracy" before making a comment about it. As, this isn't an ordinary democracy in the first places, its called a democratic republic in technical terms. This means that we elect people to make choices regarding the nation. In the congress there is 2 sections, a senate consisting of 100 members, 2 from each state. A majority of the senate must agree for a bill to be approved. In the other side, we have the house of Representative, consisting of 435(if i remember correctly) members again, in this case a majority vote must occur. Only once the house and the senate agree on a bill with the bill passing majority in both congressional sections is it sent to the president and he can choose to sign in into Law, or Veto it and send it back to the senate or house.

A Dictatorship is when a person is declared by himself or ruling power the single power in a country. This person is the judge, jury and executioner, and can make choices without the choice of others. That is simply how it works.

Also unlike most other countries we have a bill of rights. These can NOT be infringed upon, it was created by the government for the people to protect the people FROM the government. Its one of many checks and balances that prevent one section of the government from gaining to much power. As I just said, there are many systems in order where one person, or section of the government can not acquire more power than anyone else.

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Reply #32 on: November 23, 2011, 06:48:23 am
Before you judge a country and throw out accusations, come live here for awhile. Remember, not everything you hear about America is true.
It's true. I've lived here my entire life, the "news" is a farce that is filled with glittered-up, Hollywood stories and things that keep people ignorant. Politics are romanticized so that the issues don't matter and people's decision on the ballot is based upon which candidate has the bigger corporate friends.


Please understand the values of a "democracy" before making a comment about it. As, this isn't an ordinary democracy in the first places, its called a democratic republic in technical terms. This means that we elect people to make choices regarding the nation. In the congress there is 2 sections, a senate consisting of 100 members, 2 from each state. A majority of the senate must agree for a bill to be approved. In the other side, we have the house of Representative, consisting of 435(if i remember correctly) members again, in this case a majority vote must occur. Only once the house and the senate agree on a bill with the bill passing majority in both congressional sections is it sent to the president and he can choose to sign in into Law, or Veto it and send it back to the senate or house.
That's all fine and dandy, all up until the people who can actually pass, veto, or write bills start getting paid off by lobbyists to secure corporate interests.

A Dictatorship is when a person is declared by himself or ruling power the single power in a country. This person is the judge, jury and executioner, and can make choices without the choice of others. That is simply how it works.
You don't need to have a dictatorship when you can effectively troll the masses into support a war.

Also unlike most other countries we have a bill of rights. These can NOT be infringed upon, it was created by the government for the people to protect the people FROM the government. Its one of many checks and balances that prevent one section of the government from gaining to much power. As I just said, there are many systems in order where one person, or section of the government can not acquire more power than anyone else.
That's working out great.



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Reply #33 on: November 23, 2011, 04:47:24 pm
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First of all I expect you realise that I'm not talking about theory.

Go try to run for President or any other important political position in the U.S. without the backing of a major company or party... If you manage it you truly deserve a medal... That is where the dictatorship of money is...

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Reply #34 on: November 23, 2011, 04:59:23 pm
I'm lucky to be in Africa, we're safe forever as we never had and we will never have an Internet/Computer law.

Especially in North African 'respectable' countries like Morocco, piracy that doesn't harm or affect the government is allowed.

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Reply #35 on: November 23, 2011, 05:55:02 pm
This appears to start becoming an "america sucks" topic. Please be careful of what you are saying. 

Exactly, what do you mean. This is the choice of elected members, not a bunch of terrorist.

We are STILL talking about the US government right?



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Reply #36 on: November 23, 2011, 09:22:50 pm
not everything you hear about America United States is true.

Very right - specially the ''heroes of democracy'' fairytales...

come live here for awhile.

I don't plan to suicide.

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Reply #37 on: November 24, 2011, 01:06:24 pm
Don't turn this into "stubborn peoples who still live in time of communism vs. Republic democrats"



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Reply #38 on: November 24, 2011, 04:13:19 pm
Can I ask what the hell is this argument about?

EliteTerm definately wants his topic argument-free, this is about Internet Censorship not politics...

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Reply #39 on: November 25, 2011, 09:08:10 pm
Very right - specially the ''heroes of democracy'' fairytales...

I don't plan to suicide.
Just stop.



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Reply #40 on: November 25, 2011, 09:56:53 pm


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Reply #41 on: November 26, 2011, 12:21:33 am
You can't stop the truth.

Yes and I thought that was what the anti-censorship movement defended...

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Reply #42 on: November 27, 2011, 04:36:33 am
Yes and I thought that was what the anti-censorship movement defended...
Yes, but you're making a bit of an ass of yourself. Chill a bit, eh?



 


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