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Reply #60 on: January 12, 2012, 02:25:36 pm
I have patrolled with SRU in the past, plus i had them on my ass when i was a suspect (few months back)

Nothing has changed. Don't like to hear the truth? to bad.
Doubt you patrolle for a long, or anything serious. And if you patrolled with them you are obviously shit seeing they havnt asked you to join anymore. And what do you mean with noting has changed?

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Reply #61 on: January 12, 2012, 02:34:55 pm
To say it honestly new SWAT with SRU tactic is indeed just an SRU as there is pure SRU tactics and way of work instead of SWAT one wich was different . You might say SRU is SWAT but all new SWAT have is the name "SWAT" more than that it is SRU however you take it. Yet it doesn't makes end of the world as far group works efectivly,obviously it's not doing it old SWAT way but instead SRU way ,yet it is efective and works pretty good therefore I don't know what this all braging about.

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Reply #62 on: January 12, 2012, 03:16:57 pm
Why does every SAPD/SWAT related topic turns in to moan fest ?
Especially this topic gives you golden chance to spot something wrong, so if you see something done wrong by SAPD/SWAT, instead of moaning go to ARPD forums and file up a complain. But as well consider that SWAT and SAPD laws at some point are unknown to you, so make certain that you really do know the laws before you go around report/moaning.
As well for criminals side, just because these people bust some of you everyday, doesn't mean that you most certainly should just go here and start moaning without any proper reason.


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Reply #63 on: January 12, 2012, 03:49:14 pm
Really?please stop spreading wrong rammours against SWAT team.
1. SWAT never catch suspects that wanted for minor crime such as evading,reckless driving,ONLY for situations that SAPD can't handle such as heavy code 30's,assisting in 207,211.
Bullshit.
I was watching the stream for a pretty long time and they go after every murder, which even freecops can handle.

About some guys in this topic saying that SWAT doesn't patrol, you do. I saw it with my own eyes.



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Reply #64 on: January 12, 2012, 03:56:04 pm
Why does every SAPD/SWAT related topic turns in to moan fest ?
Especially this topic gives you golden chance to spot something wrong, so if you see something done wrong by SAPD/SWAT, instead of moaning go to ARPD forums and file up a complain. But as well consider that SWAT and SAPD laws at some point are unknown to you, so make certain that you really do know the laws before you go around report/moaning.
As well for criminals side, just because these people bust some of you everyday, doesn't mean that you most certainly should just go here and start moaning without any proper reason.


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Reply #65 on: January 12, 2012, 04:21:07 pm
Moaning is good.
You can't shut up if someone lies in people's faces.

Well don't consider every thing that SWAT member tells you as a "lie".
You don't know the new SWAT regulations fully, every commander is able to differ the rules of SWAT, in the current case that is Commander Ben Samiir and he changes the rules the way he sees fit for SWAT(SRU). And if SAPD Dpt.Chief+ saw something wrong with the rules, they would/will step in.
So if you think that they are doing something wrong, then please do report it to SAPD and we will handle it.
But again before you moan/report/say someone is lying, please do make certain that you know the current SWAT rules.


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Reply #66 on: January 12, 2012, 04:36:58 pm
Seems as everyone comparing ARGO-SWAT with SWAT in real life. Indeed SWAT shouldn't patrol randomly but if the SAPD and SWAT Command want it that way let them have it that way. Can't understand the issue you guys see here, really. They isn't breaking any server rules and if you are'nt aware of the current regulations and procedures in the current SWAT you shouldn't get involved in it.
 
Let them do it they way they want, any abuse or/and breach against rules can be reported, the discussion are pointless.



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Reply #67 on: January 12, 2012, 05:10:57 pm
Well, yeah, it is more of an SRU, Doggi is right.

Just because you are SWAT does not mean you stop patrolling as a regular officer.

If I was your superior and all you did was SWAT Patrols then you'd be out on your ass before you could say 'Fire'...

If this is how SWAT is going to be, the SWAT members may as well have their SAPD Rank removed and purely be SWAT...



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Reply #68 on: January 12, 2012, 05:20:55 pm
Well, yeah, it is more of an SRU, Doggi is right.

Just because you are SWAT does not mean you stop patrolling as a regular officer.

If I was your superior and all you did was SWAT Patrols then you'd be out on your ass before you could say 'Fire'...

If this is how SWAT is going to be, the SWAT members may as well have their SAPD Rank removed and purely be SWAT...

Indeed that SWAT(SRU) shouldn't be always out and it won't make any sense if they are constantly out, but so far from what SAPD CMD has seen is that SWAT(SRU) are out there only at the evenings, when its the most active time of Argo and when there is a lot of criminals on the streets.

And I can assure everyone that if SWAT(SRU) is seen to be out constantly or they are seen to abuse anything or break any regulations, they will be punished severly.


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Reply #69 on: January 12, 2012, 05:29:11 pm
Alright, thanks for clarifying Plam  ;)



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Reply #70 on: January 12, 2012, 06:20:15 pm
I've seen the broadcasting, and i must say it was a good job you guys did out there.. Still there are people who are talking without facts, but those will always remain on here. I love the idea of showing your work towards the rest of Argonath, something which normally doesnt appear, and i personally think we're in need of SWAT (including the work they are doing right now).

To those who think this is just ''DM'' and ''Heavy weapons cop abuse'', You probably haven't seen the broadcast or didnt watch as long as you should.. Everything they did yesterday, was allowed and NEEDED.

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Reply #71 on: January 12, 2012, 06:55:23 pm
I have patrolled with SRU in the past, plus i had them on my ass when i was a suspect (few months back)

Nothing has changed. Don't like to hear the truth? to bad.

I see why now.

Haters gonna hate.

Oh and for your little backup call, we don't take out hydra and take the suspect down in the most boring way. We like to take a challenge and take them down old fashion way. If you do like heavy air support then ask for SAPD or fellow members of FBI. We as a SWAT, won't be calling a backup with heavy air support on suspect wanted for fisting or so...
Have a nice day.

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Reply #72 on: January 12, 2012, 09:01:33 pm
This Live stream is seems to me very hepfull , As reminded , it also very helpfull for better communication rather then TS with whispering Keys .
S.W.A.T. is very appreciated by their hard work and by thay way of being professional and to their things quietly and nicely .
The Things that I mentioned above , Couldnt be dont without Thier Dear Command Staff : The_Terminator ( Ben_Samiir ) .
Keep it up S.W.A.T. !  :)



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Reply #73 on: January 12, 2012, 09:06:09 pm
What is this moaning all about, I can hear it from miles away.

SWAT is doing their job, You comit crimes, You choose to kill someone; It is pretty obvious if you kill someone with a gun, SWAT Is gonna respond to you and take you out with force needed.

SWAT Gives you all the time you need to give up, The moment you get suspected, You have chance to giveup. Yet some of you try to run and when your car gets disabled you decide to step out and aim your weapon, Maybe if you directly give up after your vehicles gets disabled you wont get killed, But what you choose for is to step out and fight for a penny. Obviously most of the times you will get teabagged in a matter of a second if its SWAT. Then you are mad and you go to here and moan because you lost the fight.

Take the concequences when not complying to SWAT, One advice, See SWAT Coming for you? Give up, if you cant handle 'em.

No i'm not protecting SWAT or any of the SWAT Members, I'm just stating how things are.

Like I said before, You choose to kill, deal with the concequences, You have 2 options; Give up or Try and fight and most likely get taken down.

I get taken down by SWAT(SRU) aswell several times, But I choose for that way; As I get my fun out of it to try and run/fight SWAT now, especially now i'm out of SAPD.


Think SWAT Broke regulations or they didn't treat you how they should? There is an ARPD Forum Report section. Like plam said File a complaint there, But don't come here and start moaning or throwing accusations.




As for the Livestream idea, Good idea and hopefully it works out as SWAT Command wishes how it will work out.

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Reply #74 on: January 12, 2012, 10:03:53 pm
I'm also waiting for a "criminal" stream so I can moan on them too.


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