Sheniz Erkan - R.I.P.

[aleksandar_gojkovic]

It doesn't matter where the bullying is happening. It's still happening. Someone shouldn't have to delete their own account just to feel safe or not be put down for their own faults in their personal lives that should not be made public or used against them.

She was not being too emotional. She probably tried to ignore it, or even stop it. She probably told the person to leave her alone. The person bullying her did not care...that's why they were bullying her in the first place. There's a reason why we have rules against flaming in this community, just like every other community just about does. It's not JUST to prevent conflict. It's also to prevent bullying.

Being too emotional is not at all being mentally ill. Say your wife of over 50 years just died in a car accident in front of you that was your fault because you were DUI'ing after she begged you to not, and you told her everything would be okay just before the accident. Imagine the kind of pain you would be in...knowing that it's your fault the closest person in the world to you died because of your stupid mistake. You would want to kill yourself, not going on without her, or with living the rest of your life with the pain of knowing you did such a thing to someone you loved so dearly. That kind of pain, for different reasons, is what this girl felt. She felt there was no other way out of the situation but to stop the pain the only way she thought she could. That was a mistake on her part, yes, but in her mind at the time, alternatives were not an option. She just wanted the pain to go away. No matter the example provided, anyone in that kind of situation, under that amount of pain, might not think twice about other options when wanting to commit suicide. That's why there is a such thing as the Suicide Hotline. Wanting to kill yourself is not being mentally ill...it's being so emotional that you are clouding your judgement. Love has the same effect on people as pain does. It can cloud your judgement too, if too great for you to handle.

If that car accident was my fault i still would choose life. Life goes on no matter what happens. If someone becomes so devastated that wants to commit suicide than that persons brain becomes mentally unstable... As i said only possible excuses are

a) War captive.
b) Desise for wich there is no qure
c) Loosing some part of your body
d) Poor life on the streets with no cash for food, no home, no water...

These are ONLY excuses for it...

[SugarD]

If that car accident was my fault i still would choose life. Life goes on no matter what happens.

You are correct on choosing life, but that doesn't mean you would choose that in that mental state. As I said before, people's judgement can be clouded by the intense pain, just as it can be by a great amount of love. It's very similar to the "fight or flight syndrome", which is a natural mechanism of the human body in dangerous situations.

[aleksandar_gojkovic]

You are correct on choosing life, but that doesn't mean you would choose that in that mental state. As I said before, people's judgement can be clouded by the intense pain, just as it can be by a great amount of love. It's very similar to the "fight or flight syndrome", which is a natural mechanism of the human body in dangerous situations.

I know that i would choose life even in that mental state. No matter if my mind gets clouded.

"Remember to keep yourself alive, there is nothing more important than that"-Afeni Shakur
Dude any normal human being would never, and i mean NEVER do that without a proper reason(s) wich i stated up. Since she did it at some point she got a lower person sindrom (i said it before, but i am sorry if i maybe spelled it wrong). When you have that shit you think that you are the lowest, weakest, ugliest, dumbest piece of shit there is (roughly sad). You crack and you do it. So she was (probeably, my guessing. I mean nobody goes crasy over night) mentally unstable around week or 2 before she did it.
Beackose of that we can conqure that the mental instability is responsible for that.

[Get Murked]

Lol, it's funny how you spell "because". xD

[aleksandar_gojkovic]

Yea i know...
I jsut learned it that way, and it has became a nasty habit.

[BlackEagle]

I know that i would choose life even in that mental state. No matter if my mind gets clouded.

"Remember to keep yourself alive, there is nothing more important than that"-Afeni Shakur
Dude any normal human being would never, and i mean NEVER do that without a proper reason(s) wich i stated up. Since she did it at some point she got a lower person sindrom (i said it before, but i am sorry if i maybe spelled it wrong). When you have that shit you think that you are the lowest, weakest, ugliest, dumbest piece of shit there is (roughly sad). You crack and you do it. So she was (probeably, my guessing. I mean nobody goes crasy over night) mentally unstable around week or 2 before she did it.
Beackose of that we can conqure that the mental instability is responsible for that.

Such things happen every day all around the world, No need to be over emotional.

Life is tough. Weak dies, only the strong survives.

Civilization my ass, human mentality never changes. I know its not cool, actually, it sucks. But its our nature. Gotta get used to it.

[SugarD]

I know that i would choose life even in that mental state. No matter if my mind gets clouded.

There is no way you can say that, because your judgement is clouded, ...that's the whole point. You aren't thinking normally in that state of mind. You have no way to predict your reactions then.

[aleksandar_gojkovic]

Man i know that i would never do that.
LIFE is the most important thing there is. What kinda of RETARD would take it away from himself?!

[SugarD]

Man i know that i would never do that.
LIFE is the most important thing there is. What kinda of <offensive word removed> would take it away from himself?!

You are failing to understand this at all.

1. You just bullied the dead person with your offensive flaming directed at them.
2. They would do it because they are not in a normal state of mind! As explained several times, they are not going to be using normal, common sense. They are not thinking about what is important, and what isn't, or what is a good or bad idea.

[Matthieus]

What kinda of RETARD would take it away from himself?!

What kind of retard would drive one into a such situation? Bullies are the ones who has real "troubled minds" mate, not the victims. May she rest in peace.

[Get Murked]

Man i know that i would never do that.

She didn't commit suicide just because she got bullied,  but when it crossed the boundary, she did. Everyone has a boundary, one can have a bigger, another a smaller.

[Y2JFaN]

People will be mourning and those who gave her a hard time will feel bad. but do not think this means bullying will stop. Not worldwide of course, but in the same school she goes to, it will still continue people never learn and it is a part of life. The ability to adapt to these horrific events and see that bullying is a major problem is non-existant in these times. Some day there will be a rude awakening, but until then these cases of suicide will be virtually ignored as if they never happened, and it will repeat itself.

[Robby_Wilson]

LIFE is the most important thing there is. What kinda of RETARD would take it away from himself?!

DUDE. STOP speaking for yourself... maybe YOU would not take your life because of bullying, YOU are not OTHER F**KING PEOPLE. You sound really inconsiderate right now. You need to f**king realise that when people get bullied constantly and kill themselves, its NOT because they are "Retarded" it is because they want out of it, and they think the only way out is suicide. People like you really piss me off. Saying that suicidal people are retards. The F**K is wrong with you?

Sorry for swearing but stuff like this royally pisses me off. My BEST FRIEND killed herself because she was being bullied a few years ago, and I cried for a long time, I admit, I still cry at times. One day I sent a kid to the hospital because I was in school crying and he came up to me and said what you said! "She was a RETARD, What kind of retard would kill themselves because of being bullied?!" I stood up, wiped my eyes, punched that mother f**ker in the face, broke his nose, when he was on the ground I blacked out and when I woke up I was standing over him with my fists covered in blood, he will never be the same. I'm lucky I didn't kill him. when people call people who commit suicide "retards" because they did it from being bullied, it makes me so mad.

[SugarD]

Wow guys, cool it. There is no reason to get on each other and tear each other apart over a discussion.

Let's just agree that bullying is stupid and needs to stop, end of story.