For ALL to read - clarification on when you may ask for INVESTIGATION...

[rJCaiG]

If you don't have your rights read to you, breach of constitution.

If you have your rights read to you, you may request a lawyer, furthermore an investigation.

The rights should only be read if the person is being questioned; investigated.

[MyleS]

REMINDER: The goal is to try and ARREST not KILL!

If you only tried to pull him over, and let him pay a ticket. Then if he refuses, you can /su him and no investigation/nonany moaning will have taken place. Coz you had the right reason to suspect him.

In my opinion, the player in the situation is right and you're wrong. He asked for investigation because you didnt give him a chance and you suspected him with no warnings.

You encourage players to roleplay when given a chance, like a simple pull over, or a routine check. Instead of /su and lets chase him down.

[Chris_Knight]

If you only tried to pull him over, and let him pay a ticket. Then if he refuses, you can /su him and no investigation/nonany moaning will have taken place. Coz you had the right reason to suspect him.

In my opinion, the player in the situation is right and you're wrong. He asked for investigation because you didnt give him a chance and you suspected him with no warnings.

You encourage players to roleplay when given a chance, like a simple pull over, or a routine check. Instead of /su and lets chase him down.

If you get suspected your rights to be investigated doesn't vanish,neither rights to roleplay . All what blows it up is an evade aftherwards,other than that there is no difference.

You guys really missue meaning of "suspect" or had bad past with your self begin violator,in most clear situations aftherwards you surrender you receive your roleplay or as far officer considers you won't bring a threat you still receive your roleplay. If Officer decides you let go for any reason such as Jcs  " Taken by UFO for experimental science" then you're still clean and you receive your RP.

In my view point all you had or think that if you get suspected whitout an warning it's end of the world .Instead of pull over, if are asked to surrender,surrender and proceed with roleplay cause aftherwards charges still might be taken away ,it's not like you will face jail sentence anyway.

[Dan_The_Noob]

If you get suspected your rights to be investigated doesn't vanish,neither rights to roleplay . All what blows it up is an evade aftherwards,other than that there is no difference.

you realise that is exactly when the systems flaw is right??

Ab00zer : /su <id> EVADING
Innocent Player : "what the hell?"
Ab00zer : "you no investigation, you evader"
**whole /p chat agrees with ab00zer**
Innocent Player shoots Ab00zer 
**admin kick/tempban player for DM**

[Stefanrsb]

Dan actually:

Cop: /su <id> shott,evide
Player: /l WTF??
*Bang bang bang
*Cop shoots the player
Player: /p OMG I got abused than killed
*Nobody gives a fuck
* End of the story.

But when I get abused:
*Trying to make RP
*Fail,cop shoots
*BUNNYHOP!
*Hide into a building,when he gets in,/exit,RUN
*BUNYHOP TO A CAR,FASTz0r!!!!1!!one!
*Evade..
we can see much cop abuses nowadays,but why would we change  anything exept the pricee when the cop kills an innocent player ( he loses just 10$) and as a suspect he gets 600$ we lose 1000$. When a cop kills an innocent player atlest he should lose 1k$. We should try to make RP with freecops,and cops abusers in every situation..

[Jones]

Giac the constitution states that a person HAS to be told why he is suspected and HAS to be told he has the right to a lawyer, meaning the regulation which says if you witness the crime no investigation shall be given or w/e it is, is technically going against the constitution, unless the person asks for a quick jail, where you are voiding the RP situation..

[Julio.]

If that is true then the SAPD Regulations should be changed. Although they have shown no sign of being changed. Talking about FBI regulations perhaps?

Stefan, if that player did /gu instead of WTF?!??! then they wouldn't have died.

[PaYDerS]

This information is really good for free cops!
Thanks men!

[Jones]

As FBI we need to do that anyway - As for SAPD I thought that there was something about voiding investigations, or am I wrong?

[rJCaiG]

This topic is in line with SAPD regulations, which have obviously not been updated to be in line with the constitution. Until they are updated, myself and all other SAPD Officers will be working in line with the first post of this topic, as they reflect our own regulations.

[Salmonella]

No matter how obvious the crime is, a suspect is entitled to an investigation. This is how it was and still is. If the suspect is obviously guilty, he probably won't ask for an investigation. If he does, the investigation won't take long because he's ''obviously guilty''.


Post Merge: January 12, 2012, 11:38:37 pmNo matter how obvious the crime is, a suspect is entitled to an investigation. This is how it was and still is. If the suspect is obviously guilty, he probably won't ask for an investigation. If he does, the investigation won't take long because he's ''obviously guilty''.

[Chris_Knight]

If you get abused you surrender and ask for investigation. If Officer claims he saw you evade when you clearly did not and he refuses investigate  you report him to admin or higher rank officers and he will issue an investigation anyway,stop act like an lazy assholes and actually put effort to make your life easier instead of moaning like little kidos over all chat of abuse you receive. Most of you are huge drama queens and put 0 effort to deal with suspection abuse but expecting that everything gona be done for you or that nothing can be changed when it clearly can. Know your rights,read constitutions and all gona be fine. If you geting shot afther geting suspected /gu asap as Officer actions are clearly displaying he is an asshole wanting easy money or unaware newcomer .

Investigations can be denied in specific circumstances like it was and are Salm. Not everything leads to investigation as far there is proper evidence wich imidetly proves suspects validation to begin guilty.

Related to 10$ for murdering civil on duty instead of 1000 is the fact that in lots of cases as an officer you receive bullets in your face by multiple targets wich you are unaware of so to not waste your time and suspect him,you shoot him down as citizen to save your life wich for we lose only 10$ instead of 1000$ . If you claim that every officer kills civil for that and you lose somthing what you had on you there is equal chances an random neewbie gona stab you in a neck and you will lose equaly same thing.

[Dan_The_Noob]

This topic is in line with SAPD regulations, which have obviously not been updated to be in line with the constitution. Until they are updated, myself and all other SAPD Officers will be working in line with the first post of this topic, as they reflect our own regulations.

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[Jones]

So Giac, you think it's a good idea to follow regulations which go against the constitution, of which you are meant to be enforcing?

[MyleS]

This topic is in line with SAPD regulations, which have obviously not been updated to be in line with the constitution. Until they are updated, myself and all other SAPD Officers will be working in line with the first post of this topic, as they reflect our own regulations.

noshit.