The problem here is that Junaid and I pull off a roleplay, let's say since we weren't really interested in having alliances but 8th street that we wanted to start 'beef' with other sets. We'd be conversing with them, lead things from one to another then pull out a gun or something. The person who is having a gun pulled on him, which we do not want to shoot obviously pulls one out or starts running. That's why we got punished that day and it's just sad to see hell of work put in a community like this but then let other players and such ruin it for everyone else.