[Unbanned][SFC]Talya_taya

[Talya_taya]

IG Nick: [SFC]Talya_taya
Ban Reason: Abuse Of Admins - Abuse Of Players
Date: 14.02.2012 -22.53
Banned by: [R*]DellStorm , [TCL]Dino

Since that day, still (even while writing this unban request) thinking about what did I do to deserve this ban. For a long time I play on this server, I wasn't being warned etc from any admins/mods about anything and also heard some admins was seriously thinking that I was changed... Then this ban came and some explains about this ban.

According to the things that Dell explained, by inviting people to my gang, I'm making them "I", training them to rulebreak.. I always try to stop a member to do rulebreak when I see it, I change them its right... But not making them rulebreaker, making them avoid to rulebreak by my experiences...

By the things that he said, I dont know how Im gonna earn something. And also he said that "I'm so tricky and made everybody think like I'm changed but I'm still the old rulebreaker."

Also Cyc was one of the ppl that is told to stay in server.. And while we were talking he told us that he left SFC cos SFC turned him into asshole that's why he left SFC(I wish he told me this when I asked[I always ask when a person leave to make the gang a better place]) But after 2 days, I asked Cyc(Via Forum PM) how did SFC change you, made u an asshole and he said he left the gang cos I was trolling to everybody thats why he left the gang...(About this trolling: In my country, Between friends kind of these things like trolling are being too much, by that way ppl show their friendship, ppl doesnt get it bad and I have always seen the whole server as my friends that s why I do it, but Im sorry if ppl got me wrong about it) Whatever... Dell also showed me that Im changing ppl via showing Coke's ban and casper's some rulebreaks, and told me before these guys joined to your gang, they werent performing rulebreaks. But I seriously don't think I changed these ppl and if you have other proves than telling me this coincidence, I would like to hear that. I think this is what "Abusing of Players" by he meant.

About Abuse of Admins, I seriously dont know what does this mean, then remembered Dell said Lazlow that he abuses the admins and Lazlow also asked to Dell what does Abusing admins mean, and he said taking admins' time, dont let them do their job. But I seriously dont have any info why is this in my Ban Reason..

I also want to add something, I can be blind, I have may not seen my wrongs but if the A-Team would tell and if our Developers still can tell it to me.. I would be glad, please people don't think I'm acting the fool, I have never been acted the fool and tell me my mistakes to fix them. How can you wait from me to change myself without knowing what I did...

If I get unban, I'll change by what our developers/admins add my wrongs. I always wanted to be in a community like this and found it, I don't want to lose what I found and requesting another chance to change. =)

If I don't get an unban, well I'll be glad to hear my mistakes anyway, so even If I wont be able to change myself in this server, maybe in another community, I can change this so please tell me my mistakes. =(

I hope I'll get an unban, because I might made lots of mistakes maybe, yeah I know it, I have a bad past, but I've never performed the same wrongs several times, always stopped to do when I learned them. =)

[Witchking]

Hi Talya, It had come to my knowledge, that you Provide Some Moves that aint supported in our server, For Exemple you, show lack of Respect to Players,Server,and Admins,
you Teach People your way of playing, Wich sometimes can show up to be wrong way.

And you trying to Protect your Crew from admins, And tell them what to do, even if one of your Crew members Commits a Rulebreak.


Alot of Times you bin warned for it, but still kept going, We had to stop the ship ourself this time, wich Resulted in a ban, couse of the fact sometimes you told a story ingame, wich turned out to Be a Lie



Regards

[Talya_taya]

I dont remember any warn if u doesnt count that admins say " you know better than me " =/
Post Merge: February 21, 2012, 08:02:39 pmAnd I seriously dont remember that I did one of anything that u counted at these times, I just remember my newbie time, not this period...

[Witchking]

There is your issue then, couse if you cant see your foults, and undetstand them. No change Will be done and admins will keep on banning you.

[Talya_taya]

And there is admins issue then, if they wont help and just ban people cos being a regular, who(player) can do what then?

[Witchking]

And there is admins issue then, if they wont help and just ban people cos being a regular, who(player) can do what then?

So admins didn't warn you?

[Talya_taya]

So admins didn't warn you?

You say it.. Thats what Im asking for =)

[Witchking]

You say it.. Thats what Im asking for =)

Dude your warnings can not be counted on whole admin teams fingers together, i mean it goes to a line, you crossed that line, wich need harder punishments

[Talya_taya]

Sorry for not counting the warnings that is told to me like I know and just telling "I warn you" etc.. , whenever Im being warned, by not telling reason, I cant change myself (Like everytime I said in my unban request and during warns)...

I even got a warning for abusing players via mainchat, asking to other admins about what does it mean, they say they dont know, and the mod that talks to me says "you know what u did" and expecting what from me? Asking to everybody, some says u dont know, one says you know what u did, how can I know my fault then u count this as a warn? Interesting...

And dont tell me, that is just one, if u dont trust me(probably not) check the chatlog...

[Witchking]

As long you Don't see the Reasons, This will get no where, and will end up the same way everytime. you have bin banned before and let back into server, and end up banned again. we dont accept this sort of behaviour, inside our server.

This time is different, couse i can't find a reason to let you back in, if you can't see the foults you do, To end up banned again and again and don't have any idea how to change them.
..

This is just an Ex of How Administrators Look at Our players And what you have to Consider Wich Side you are on.


Part1

Players Approved in argonath and will Play Happy Truly for how long they want

Social players wich accept and follow the rules.
That know what respect the server and its players and Administrators Means!.
Treat Players same way they want to be treated
Helpfoul and and happy Players.
and alot more Goodness!




Part2

Players that will Most truly end up banned, AfterSome time if no improvement shown after warnings

Rulebreakers
Disrespect for admins and Players
Avoiding Admins punishments
Bad Behaviour,Bad attitude
Disrespect for Server
Insulting toward otherplayers or Server.
Trolling To a Grade not needed.

[Talya_taya]

As long you Don't see the Reasons, This will get no where, and will end up the same way everytime. you have bin banned before and let back into server, and end up banned again. we dont accept this sort of behaviour, inside our server.

This time is different, couse i can't find a reason to let you back in, if you can't see the foults you do, To end up banned again and again and don't have any idea how to change them.
..

This is just an Ex of How Administrators Look at Our players And what you have to Consider Wich Side you are on.

After the first ban, it was already decided to stay banned, the matter was time..

Players that will Most truly end up banned, AfterSome time if no improvement shown after warnings

2 days before I was banned, admins were saying that I was seriously changed.. Hmm

The things that dell said and used as a reason to ban was totally wrong things, which can't also shown proofs.

So dont tell me...

Rulebreakers
Disrespect for admins and Players
Avoiding Admins punishments
Bad Behaviour,Bad attitude
Disrespect for Server
Insulting toward otherplayers or Server.
Trolling To a Grade not needed.

Cos Im not banned for these reasons..
 
I'm asking for real reasons...

[DellStorm]

Hi Talya,

The reason for you being banned in the first place is because you were having an affect on how people played in our server.

Lets start by rule-breaking. On numerous occasions, counting what you have done since you have been playing at ArgonathRPG you have not been totally open an honest with us.

Considering the amount of followers you had at one point, Lichm for example would choose to hide behind you when being questioned by the admin team. As a responsible player should you have left him to it.

As undercover managers have noticed you have often death-matched willingly when no admins are around, even though this is a genuine rule-break which you should have reported to the managers anyway.

Avoiding admins and punishments. Your attitude has been against you here, whereby if you were to get punished you would argue with the administrator forcing them to choose a lesser punishment and then forcing doubt upon the admin team, rather than being the responsible player that understands the reason for punishment in the first place. Instead you chose to persist your efforts and have been known to interfere with another players punishments. In this light we see fit to complete the punishment list with a ban, hence have done so.

Lets talk about the good that you have done to the server and combine it with the reasons mentioned as to why a full ban was taken place. You have role-played well with others and even formed a group. You have entertained new players and gave them support. New players have always done well by you. Unfortunately where admins are concerned this has on some occasions led them to question admins in the same way as you do. If you can see what this does to the server in a small period of time it does create an issue whereby players go to you for guidance and you can suggest ways of hiding behind admins so that they disguise their death-matches or otherwise and use the term *I dont speak English*.

Lets understand that it is not a direct reason to ban and this is most probably why you are finding difficulties with coming to terms with the nature of the ban itself. You have changed the way that new players around you respond to admins in a way that is unacceptable to us and so is the reason for the ban.

I hope that this has cleared up any questions that you had previous to this and that you understand the reason as to why the nature of the ban was as serious as it was.

Regards, DellStorm

[Talya_taya]

First of all, thanks for being exact against me.

Lets start by rule-breaking. On numerous occasions, counting what you have done since you have been playing at ArgonathRPG you have not been totally open an honest with us.

You're right, I did too much bad things in past, it was because I couldn't get the server.. But I dont think I'm still the bad rulebreaker...

Considering the amount of followers you had at one point, Lichm for example would choose to hide behind you when being questioned by the admin team. As a responsible player should you have left him to it.

About Lichm... The only guy, my friend, which doesn't know English, in my opinion some people think the whole world knows or should know English, but not.. You shouldn't think as I cover him, I just translate what he says cos he cant do on his own so he wants help from me to translate it.. Without seeing anything, I cant cover someone...

As undercover managers have noticed you have often death-matched willingly when no admins are around, even though this is a genuine rule-break which you should have reported to the managers anyway.

I'll want something from you which you really hate about it, and you probably wont do but I'll try my chance.. Can you show me any proof, it's not because I say you lie, it's because you might got it wrong, or at least I want to remember cos when I seriously think and try to remember.. I just can't..

Avoiding admins and punishments. Your attitude has been against you here, whereby if you were to get punished you would argue with the administrator forcing them to choose a lesser punishment and then forcing doubt upon the admin team, rather than being the responsible player that understands the reason for punishment in the first place. Instead you chose to persist your efforts and have been known to interfere with another players punishments. In this light we see fit to complete the punishment list with a ban, hence have done so.

I know sometimes I comment after someone is being punished, it's something wrong with me I know.. I should stop to do it BUT I don't interfere any player punishment.

Lets talk about the good that you have done to the server and combine it with the reasons mentioned as to why a full ban was taken place. You have role-played well with others and even formed a group. You have entertained new players and gave them support. New players have always done well by you. Unfortunately where admins are concerned this has on some occasions led them to question admins in the same way as you do. If you can see what this does to the server in a small period of time it does create an issue whereby players go to you for guidance and you can suggest ways of hiding behind admins so that they disguise their death-matches or otherwise and use the term *I dont speak English*.

Ok stop there, if you have evidence put it here, if you don't, just don't ruin my personality with what u guess. I don't teach anything, especially anything to evade punishments to no one...

Lets understand that it is not a direct reason to ban and this is most probably why you are finding difficulties with coming to terms with the nature of the ban itself. You have changed the way that new players around you respond to admins in a way that is unacceptable to us and so is the reason for the ban.

I'm not responsible for it, without comparing anybody, I make friends, with regulars.. with new players.. I don't have any problem if the person is an "human"

[Witchking]

So actually i can't Unban someone that wont acept his ban reason, and don't see his role in The ban Reason, if there was no such thing as Truth in the Things we told you above. why would you be here, talking thrue the Unban section to us. And not Ingame having fun?

[Talya_taya]

Just tell me, what I seriously did? In which moment, how? Just answer it, If u want me to change, I need your help.. but if u just dont think about it, tell it and I ll withdraw my request and you ll escape from me..