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Vice City Police Department v. [DC]Rapture, [DC]Pups, et al.

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Reply #30 on: February 20, 2012, 03:09:31 am
Witnesses that you have provided to this case are dead. All except one.

Officer [WS]Verz got sniped infront of VCPD HQ, proven by over a handfull of officers.
Officer [WS]Legend got sniped infront of VCPD HQ, proven by over a handfull of officers.
Officer Max.Cipone got killed in the locker room of VCPD HQ, proven by your now-dead witnesses.
Member of the SWAT team DaniGold got sniped infront of VCPD HQ, proven by over a handfull of officers.

Also I edit my statement just a little bit. It wasn't Legend who shot me down, I was killed by officer [D.R]Dany infront of VCPD HQ at the time of sniper shots. Also I was unarmed and standing still, ready to surrender. But hey, I guess I couldn't surrender considering I AM DEAD. Proven by many LEOs.

Klaus also saw atleast some of these kills that happened. (Of this, I am not sure of, you should ask him)

This couldn't have happened because Klaus was inactive for the entire duration of the incident. Legend was inactive for the entire duration of the incident. There were no snipers present, but I will acknowledge Max.Cipone's death as it was shown clearly in the video.

If any of this actually occurred, it wouldn't be continuous with this situation, but with another situation, such as the bankrob you say occurred after this one. Therefore, their witness reports would not be voided. Otherwise, it would be as if I said your comments were void because, say, you drowned a few minutes ago.



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Reply #31 on: February 20, 2012, 03:11:33 am
I think it would depend what, if any of those (if valid) are relevant to this case?
I must say that I was not involved in the incident itself (being present in the building as an idle), and know of it through evidence and the investigation itself.

Of course, the damage it has had on the department is not void, however.

Reality of the server means that we can die infinite amount of times, but we technically cannot sway the way in which continuity of roles work.

The fact that the same 'riot' group that attacked the VCPD also attempted to demolish the pre-ceremony, sniping officers and eye-witnesses of the situation.

And I would also like to point out (as I mentioned before) that I was killed by [RO]Alex, I was murdered trying to evade my crime, infront of VCPD, at the stairs.

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This couldn't have happened because Klaus was inactive for the entire duration of the incident. Legend was inactive for the entire duration of the incident. There were no snipers present, but I will acknowledge Max.Cipone's death as it was shown clearly in the video.

If any of this actually occurred, it wouldn't be continuous with this situation, but with another situation, such as the bankrob you say occurred after this one. Therefore, their witness reports would not be voided. Otherwise, it would be as if I said your comments were void because, say, you drowned a few minutes ago.

Klaus was in fact active at the situation, he was running around when Legend got sniped (and other officers).



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Reply #32 on: February 20, 2012, 03:14:26 am
I think we are receiving a direct presentation (or confession in some cases?) of some possible other offences?
If such individuals are and have committed offences like these, I am sure they have done so before and I wouldn't be surprised if it happened again, provided that they were allowed to endanger the public further.

Surely, simply unpausing my game doesn't mean I should be sniped continuously?

This couldn't have happened because Klaus was inactive for the entire duration of the incident. Legend was inactive for the entire duration of the incident. There were no snipers present, but I will acknowledge Max.Cipone's death as it was shown clearly in the video.


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Reply #33 on: February 20, 2012, 03:18:41 am
There seems to be conflicting views of when said incident officially ended.


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Reply #34 on: February 20, 2012, 03:23:58 am
First there was this VCPD incident as Legend likes to call it :D

Then admins took action when a little hell broke loose on the server. I got killed in that shizzlefest by [D.R]Dany the Freelance officer (who does not btw have forum account or any sorts).

After it snipers started popping down the heads of key witnesses (still the same group of people acting) and you can sum up 1+1 yourself I hope.

Same group takes over VCPD at the day of Ceremony for cops. Of which after they snipe the valid witnesses that were there and somehow survived. After the ceremony someone blew up half of your VCPD staff, including two casualties and 5 (atleast) major injuries.

I don't see any problem in here. I and Rapture died, snipers cleaned the witnesses. I think this case can be closed due to lack of participants in court.


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Reply #35 on: February 20, 2012, 03:24:58 am
First there was this VCPD incident as Legend likes to call it :D

Then admins took action when a little hell broke loose on the server.

This is where the incident referred to here should've ended. Otherwise we're just counting everything that's ever happened on the server was one big incident. The award ceremony was an official server event, and any interference would've been a violation of server rules, hence void in court. Admin interference showed that there was rulebreaking involved, which is (apparently) void in court as well.



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Reply #36 on: February 20, 2012, 03:29:58 am
Ceremony happened in Vice Point PD. Snipers were in VCPD HQ in Washington Beach.

Snipers destroyed the witnesses before the event, after the incident.


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Reply #37 on: February 20, 2012, 03:30:29 am
This is where the incident referred to here should've ended. Otherwise we're just counting everything that's ever happened on the server was one big incident. The award ceremony was an official server event, and any interference would've been a violation of server rules, hence void in court. Admin interference showed that there was rulebreaking involved, which is (apparently) void in court as well.

The snipers didn't interfere at the event, but before the event. Just wanted to make that clear.



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Reply #38 on: February 20, 2012, 03:31:18 am
They snipers didn't interfere at the event, but before the event. Just wanted to make that clear.

The line should be drawn when admin interference began, because from that point on, everything is muddled.



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Reply #39 on: February 20, 2012, 03:32:23 am
The line should be drawn when admin interference began, because from that point on, everything is muddled.

It began even before we entered the PD.



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Reply #40 on: February 20, 2012, 03:33:59 am
It began even before we entered the PD.

If Legend and Klaus, the only admins online aside from Kessu, had been inactive for the entire duration of that moment, how could they have interfered?



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Reply #41 on: February 20, 2012, 03:34:58 am
If Legend and Klaus, the only admins online, had been inactive for the entire duration of that moment, how could they have interfered?

I believe there was a DM situation near the PD before we started, Kessu attempted to calm them down.



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Reply #42 on: February 20, 2012, 03:35:38 am



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Reply #43 on: February 20, 2012, 03:36:17 am
The line should be drawn when admin interference began, because from that point on, everything is muddled.
I guess that is up to the judge to decide. Usually, the death of a player means the end of their role in that specific incident.


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Reply #44 on: February 20, 2012, 03:37:15 am
I guess that is up to the judge to decide. Usually, the death of a player means the end of his role in that specific incident.

Unless another situation arises, or the situation is FUBAR. Problem is, we have no presiding judge.



 


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