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Vice City Police Department v. [DC]Rapture, [DC]Pups, et al.

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Reply #45 on: February 20, 2012, 03:39:58 am
Klaus and Legend were not only admins online :(
inb4 someone says I am only a moderator

The line "does not have to be drawn" when admins take action. Admins took action mostly against players that were not even present in the event of 'VCPD incident'. All were LEOs at the time, who were shooting at each others. Even if Admins start to take action against heavy rulebreaking, it does not mean roleplay is over at the same moment. Otherwise roleplaying "bigger" scenes such as this would not be possible, especially in VCMP since most servers in VCMP are Deathmatch oriented, Argonath being the only roleplay server in official list.

This already starts to go off-topic and I am sure you understand what I mean Stormeus..


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Reply #46 on: February 20, 2012, 03:43:08 am
we have no presiding judge.
I'm guessing this case will be left for Chief Justice


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Reply #47 on: February 20, 2012, 03:46:23 am
Not that the situation necessarily ends when someone throws a /c warn, but you said that all hell had broken loose, so I'm assuming that the situation had gotten too out of hand to properly continue. For example, if all those [RO]'s hadn't spawned as cops and suddenly shot everyone, the situation would've ended much differently.

Yes, this has drifted off-topic, but for the sake of trying to establish when/where one moment begins and where another ends so we can continue this without future complaints about "he killed me, this guy isn't dead, this guy is, voided evidence."

Regardless, I still contest the deaths of Kessu and Rapture within the context of this court case.



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Reply #48 on: February 20, 2012, 03:52:45 am
[RO]s were cops earlier too, and first shot towards us was made by [D.R]Dany (>.>) and then we annihilated the PD, some died outside, some made it out alive. When new players start DMing because we had roleplay based shizzlelordnut situation, it does not mean that roleplay ends. As Klaus said, it usually is considered until someone dies or leaves the server.


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Reply #49 on: February 20, 2012, 01:40:30 pm
VCPD buildings are considered as safe harbours for the community, and all are welcome to visit for official reasons.
The general public and police personnel should have the right to treat it in that way.

The VCPD HQ, of all places should be a safe and secure environment. The acts by the said individuals, this encroachment of a government building has definitely changed the above.

Other than damages to law enforcement officers, and possible members of the public, the department has taken a toll as a whole.
The HQ has been closed, or in part, closed along with the nearby area due to extensive structural damages. This not only affects the functioning of the police in the city, but also the public.


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Reply #50 on: February 20, 2012, 02:00:05 pm
sorry to break the pretty boy talk but it works this way - if the verdict is finished and they're requested to pay the price, they will need to be chased down by police first IG, unless they decide to pay without a problem



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Reply #51 on: February 20, 2012, 02:04:15 pm
The prosecution asserts that Legend was idle at the time of the incident, so this couldn't have happened.



Also im pretty sure it doesnt matter if you got killed afterwards , you were alive during this situation.

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Reply #52 on: February 20, 2012, 02:06:46 pm
Also im pretty sure it doesnt matter if you got killed afterwards , you were alive during this situation.

the death of a player means the end of their role in that specific incident.



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Reply #53 on: February 20, 2012, 02:13:10 pm
If the verdict is finished and they're requested to pay the price, they will need to be chased down by police first IG, unless they decide to pay without a problem

The state may decide to remove assets and wealth, as well themselves.
The police don't have to chase anyone down without a very good reason.

Seeing as what has been done to our headquarters, however... it's not really acceptable.


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Reply #54 on: February 20, 2012, 03:15:17 pm
The state may decide to remove assets and wealth, as well themselves.
The police don't have to chase anyone down without a very good reason.

Seeing as what has been done to our headquarters, however... it's not really acceptable.
....but charging a deadmen is quite hard


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Reply #55 on: February 20, 2012, 11:57:02 pm
I have seen the evident video footage of the manhunt in the VCMP but this is certainly not on a level of terrorism or anything beyond. Since the police is not capable of handcuffing and imprison somebody in this situation, they truthfully did their job by hunting down the suspects, which should already end things up entirely. The suspects that have died are not able to be a part of this if they passed away, am I right? The demands are too high, the concept of this complaint is mashed up and built on deficient ground. There should of been a better way to point fingers at the accussed.

footnote : I did not represent my toughts as a council.



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Reply #56 on: February 21, 2012, 12:02:27 am
*Brian stands up

Sorry for being late but i object any involvement of me in this case. I was there on this event but mainly dint do anything
As shown in the security tapes i did not attack or took part of this "invasion" i had a complainment about one of VCPDs applicants (STALKER) also shown in the security tapes. As i feel that people are going to ask why i was armed and how and if those weps were legal. i own the Ocean Beach Ammunation cause the previous owner dint got the job done the business itself isnt running well but im putting my hard work and effort in it to earn it and the Suer Stormeus loaned me the money to buy that business as seen in this officially contract http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=78697.0. I sell my guns legal and i always arm myself to protect myself and if needed the others. also later the event i got heavely wounded and "Killed" by ARPD Cadet Max.Cipone by a misunderstanding that accourd at that event. and after my death i went to heaven (Quited the game).

*Brian ends his Statement and sits down


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Reply #57 on: February 21, 2012, 06:12:21 am
*Brian stands up

Sorry for being late but i object any involvement of me in this case. I was there on this event but mainly dint do anything
As shown in the security tapes i did not attack or took part of this "invasion" i had a complainment about one of VCPDs applicants (STALKER) also shown in the security tapes. As i feel that people are going to ask why i was armed and how and if those weps were legal. i own the Ocean Beach Ammunation cause the previous owner dint got the job done the business itself isnt running well but im putting my hard work and effort in it to earn it and the Suer Stormeus loaned me the money to buy that business as seen in this officially contract http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=78697.0. I sell my guns legal and i always arm myself to protect myself and if needed the others. also later the event i got heavely wounded and "Killed" by ARPD Cadet Max.Cipone by a misunderstanding that accourd at that event. and after my death i went to heaven (Quited the game). Before i end my Statement i have 1 demand i want the VCPD/ARPD to check the Wanted list/logs that accoured on that event before continuing.

*Brian ends his Statement and sits down
Logs are not valid evidence in court :P


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Reply #58 on: February 21, 2012, 03:02:36 pm
fixed :p


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Reply #59 on: February 21, 2012, 03:29:54 pm
* STALKER41 stands up with a scar.
I can't believe iam the only alive witness...
Anyways...this is my side of the story.
After a chase, I returned to the PD.I saw the PD full of cougars,civilians almost all of them armed.
I saw the [RO] going into a raging blood-lust.They tried killing the civilians and cougars though they failed as they got killed.
There was a sniper outside who tried to assasinate me. He had already killed my cop mates (Verz,Max).
The sniper was Brian.Me and the zombie Max went to investigate there.We saw Brian suiciding off the bridge.Then we returned to PD back again
Once I took cover from the sniper,the people inside the PD were turning into a frenzy against cops.
And then the ceremony part which isn't related to this story...

* STALKER41 stands down and puts a bandage on the scar.



 


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