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Reply #15 on: July 31, 2012, 07:53:14 am



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Reply #16 on: July 31, 2012, 08:13:02 am
Nice video



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Reply #17 on: July 31, 2012, 12:40:18 pm
Jcs perharps you could add something along lines of provoking there for exaple : walking to balla territory with bats as grove and going "GROVE 4 life" and doing /riot to result mass DM/Brawl is not allowed... it happend yesterday with no rp reason that happend twice.


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Reply #18 on: July 31, 2012, 01:14:27 pm
Jcs perharps you could add something along lines of provoking there for exaple : walking to balla territory with bats as grove and going "GROVE 4 life" and doing /riot to result mass DM/Brawl is not allowed... it happend yesterday with no rp reason that happend twice.
That is a roleplay attempt and should not be punished, the only who should be punished is the guy who has been 'disrespect' IF he insta-shoot him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mzw8PeYMj84
This does not look like DM at all, plus if the gangs are roleplaying between each other and no report is made which means both parts agrees on the 'brawl' or gang-fight.
You are not allowed to pop up from middle of nowhere and start to blast the attacker with your shotgun without a word. If you present your self with "Ey, hands off my brother or I blast your ass off nigg'!" you have introduced your self and the attacker is very
:lol: The cop would just shoot the both of you and it would be considered "ok"
probable situation:
You: 'Ey, hands off ma brother or I blast your ass off nigg'!
You have been suspected for: aiding.
You: wtf?
Cop: /gu!!!!
You: Alright, alright! I give up!
Cop: /gu!!!!!

I'd shoot the fuck outta him at his first "/gu" obv. he wasn't gonna rp at all..


do it somewhere OUT OF LS where new players and others will not get caught up
Oh when it comes to the 'gang sides' everybody suddenly cares about new players..
New players were shot daily while simply standing at GS9 for simply 'not answering' the smart-ass cop who knew he couldn't talk just because he didn't know to roleplay yet and no1 ever cared about the impact that would do on the newplayers.. I bet that if any newbie asked you 'how to be a cop' you'd probably just tell him to go to LSPD and do /duty and use /cophelp ;)
Take 'Akselbaba' as an example..
When I first joined the server, I decided to become cop and I've been told to chase 'orangeman'. As soon as I /duty'd, I've been given guns so my job would be easy, just blast the fuck outta the orangines and that's how I met Aksel and Chavez on the Burkev family HQ. I was chasing for orange guys in SF when I saw them stopped and surely an easy target for 3 deagle shots and a 500$ profit, which was my attempt.
Instead of moaning and reporting me and getting me banned, aksel taught me how to be a cop and invited me to join his family which I did and he pretty much taught everything I know about argonath and general role-playing, same goes for Eugene, Cofi and some others examples here..
Why would you not want gang-fights? Let me guess... You're a cop and when you get nearby, both gangs just shoot the fuck outta you?
Then instead of running around with guns, bunny-hopping and shouting /s3 and /gu use /me and try to get involved in the situation because if you can look like a real-deal cop, their whole gang would just start running, obviously noone wants troubles with the officers

Just me and myself..


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Reply #19 on: July 31, 2012, 03:11:59 pm
:lol: The cop would just shoot the both of you and it would be considered "ok"
probable situation:
You: 'Ey, hands off ma brother or I blast your ass off nigg'!
You have been suspected for: aiding.
You: wtf?
Cop: /gu!!!!
You: Alright, alright! I give up!
Cop: /gu!!!!!

And instead of say how the cop can do next time we complain that they can't roleplay and they abuse. How do you think people react when they are accused of being bad roleplayers and idiots? This is the main issue and players do not understand at all what it gets for consequenses.

Introduce your self and be the best in the roleplay situation instead of lower your self to the roleplay level you hate. It's comon sense.



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Reply #20 on: July 31, 2012, 03:19:44 pm
h when it comes to the 'gang sides' everybody suddenly cares about new players..
New players were shot daily while simply standing at GS9 for simply 'not answering' the smart-ass cop who knew he couldn't talk just because he didn't know to roleplay yet and no1 ever cared about the impact that would do on the newplayers.. I bet that if any newbie asked you 'how to be a cop' you'd probably just tell him to go to LSPD and do /duty and use /cophelp ;)
Take 'Akselbaba' as an example..
When I first joined the server, I decided to become cop and I've been told to chase 'orangeman'. As soon as I /duty'd, I've been given guns so my job would be easy, just blast the f**k outta the orangines and that's how I met Aksel and Chavez on the Burkev family HQ. I was chasing for orange guys in SF when I saw them stopped and surely an easy target for 3 deagle shots and a 500$ profit, which was my attempt.
Instead of moaning and reporting me and getting me banned, aksel taught me how to be a cop and invited me to join his family which I did and he pretty much taught everything I know about argonath and general role-playing, same goes for Eugene, Cofi and some others examples here..
Why would you not want gang-fights? Let me guess... You're a cop and when you get nearby, both gangs just shoot the f**k outta you?
Then instead of running around with guns, bunny-hopping and shouting /s3 and /gu use /me and try to get involved in the situation because if you can look like a real-deal cop, their whole gang would just start running, obviously noone wants troubles with the officers
And this shows exatly why people should teach new players, even if they are cops.
You got taught, pass on the torch.

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Reply #21 on: July 31, 2012, 04:55:44 pm
Jcs perharps you could add something along lines of provoking there for exaple : walking to balla territory with bats as grove and going "GROVE 4 life" and doing /riot to result mass DM/Brawl is not allowed... it happend yesterday with no rp reason that happend twice.
  Good point. Groups should not randomly enter a populated area and start provoking. Not everyone will know the situation or the RP reason so it does not agree with the criteria I put.

  If two groups want to fight to settle a dispute, it should be done like in that video. Where it is ORGANISED by both sides.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mzw8PeYMj84
  That is a good example of what OK. Both sides are organised. There are no random players nearby to join in without knowing what is going on. There is a face-off with RP before fight starts so everyone knows why they are there.



  This topic is not about cops and criminals. It's not that we don't want gang fights on the server, we want the gang fights to have meaning, to have a point and not just be mindless deathmatch of guys with different group skin.

  Lead by example and teach others how you were taught as Gandalf said.



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Reply #22 on: July 31, 2012, 04:59:42 pm
Gang wars with reasonable roleplay involved is thousands time more entertaining and exciting than plain deathmatching. Also, during my times on Argonath, there are cops who behave exactly or very similar to "new" cops. I seen many of them pretending that they don't know the rules with game time above a month. GS9 is a common attraction point for these players.

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Reply #23 on: July 31, 2012, 06:46:50 pm
so let me get this straight. if i see my friend about to die, i can't kill them without saying anything? who the fuck does that? if someone sees an asskicking going on, they will just take action. there is to time for words. or is this another one of those ''admin made up rules'' i'm pretty confused right about now. this simply doesn't make sense.



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Reply #24 on: July 31, 2012, 07:02:34 pm
so let me get this straight. if i see my friend about to die, i can't kill them without saying anything? who the f**k does that? if someone sees an asskicking going on, they will just take action. there is to time for words. or is this another one of those ''admin made up rules'' i'm pretty confused right about now. this simply doesn't make sense.

If there's anyone making no sense at the moment, it's you. Read the whole topic.

  If you are with your criminal friend you should have plenty of time to "/s SAVE NESS" or if you can see cops coming, you could just say "leave him alone" before.

If you dont have time to say 2 words, it means you have just drove up and are shooting cops for no RP reason, which is not allowed. RP reason is so victim (whoever you attack) knows without doubt you are with him, then he cannot complain you killed him with DM.

RP Is about communication. It is no good saying to admin after you are punished "omg I defend my friend"... when the guy had no idea who the hell you are. If you want to kill without a single word - go to Paruni DM server. 


Imagine, I'm driving around, and I see a friend of my being robbed, so I just get out of the car and shoot the muggers? If that makes sense to you, I don't know...



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Reply #25 on: July 31, 2012, 07:32:05 pm
so let me get this straight. if i see my friend about to die, i can't kill them without saying anything? who the f**k does that? if someone sees an asskicking going on, they will just take action. there is to time for words. or is this another one of those ''admin made up rules'' i'm pretty confused right about now. this simply doesn't make sense.
Example you had an conflict with an street swagger and you two started an fight after argument,neither you ,neither he is fighting for life's. Then some guy out of nowhere jumps out,grabs combat out of ass and kills you to protect his friend. Was it roleplay? No. And reason is because he had to notify you in roleplay manner about his intention and what for are you going to die.

As you've been apart of administration,I'm more than disappointed that you're unaware of this.

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Reply #26 on: July 31, 2012, 07:35:15 pm
ok, ok.

i would believe that is understandable because it was his friend. this is not a deathmatch, however it is murder. leave it to the cops to handle. if you don't like being blasted while in a fight, don't get in one. i mean, it's common sense. if you see a friend being killed, you will act. 



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Reply #27 on: July 31, 2012, 07:40:19 pm
What if I stumble upon a random fight, seeing Mafia1 (which I'm in) fighting with Mafia2 member. The opponent has full hp, while I have half, and the victim has 1 hp. Now, I'm meant to actually alert him before shooting him in the back, despite the fact he's actually shooting already? We all know he'd just turn his gun on me and use the situation to kill me as I'm writing, since my HP is lower than his



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Reply #28 on: July 31, 2012, 07:40:45 pm
ok, ok.

i would believe that is understandable because it was his friend. this is not a deathmatch, however it is murder. leave it to the cops to handle. if you don't like being blasted while in a fight, don't get in one. i mean, it's common sense. if you see a friend being killed, you will act.
* Pepper in normal civilan clothes fights Mash in purple aka Balla clothes at Idlewood.
* Frank Hawk comes from Grove Street after a succesful fight with CJ. Frank have green clothes (no offense Frank! :razz: ) on and can not be connected to the Ballas. He draw his deagle and shooting Pepper since Pepper fought Mash, which is Frank's friend.

Will you complain or accept that Frank opened fire?





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Reply #29 on: July 31, 2012, 07:42:20 pm
* Pepper in normal civilan clothes fights Mash in purple aka Balla clothes at Idlewood.
* Frank Hawk comes from Grove Street after a succesful fight with CJ. Frank have green clothes on and can not be connected to the Ballas. He draws his deagle and shooting Pepper since Pepper fought Mash, which is Frank's friend.

Will you complain or accept that Frank opened fire?
As long as you and Frank are friends, then there is no reason to complain. Deathmatching is random killing, if I remember correctly, in instances like this, they have a reason to kill. Just because they don't say anything doesn't mean they don't have a valid reason.  :lol:



 


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