Gang Wars FAQ

[wweman14]

This is true that one side is way weaker than the other.
It actually goes against a Group & Clan rule.

http://www.argonathrpg.eu/index.php?topic=55914.0

We may have to enforce small alliances only. Group will have to select up to 2 or 3 groupsto ally with, not 7 or 8..

Even if this side has 50 allies, the amount of actual members on the OTHER side can get very large, making the numbers between both sides equal. Now, while I agree RP is top thing, i dont agree its mass dm. Both sides know very well with what is happening, it shouldnt a surprise to anyone if someone is shot. Rolling to another groups hood in a convoy is a suicide mission.

[Stivi]

The funny thing is that the scenarios mentioned in that topic happened recently, so it fits pretty well in the present 

But doesn't change the fact that it is outdated. You need to understand that these constant shootouts are keeping the playerbase up. Enforce RP if you think people are DMing, not limiting shootouts. I'm quite inactive atm due to bad schedules but I've seen some pics. Things are out of control, but what the HQ presented as a solution is not. I said this before:

A certain active group provoking gang wars and brawls with another inactive group, and so dragging this group in game to fight back. Two groups fighting brought more cops and so player interactivity increased. Think about it.

Please, think of another solution to this BIG concern. This actually makes me thing the A-Team isn't capable of handling their duty, actually. Stop being lazy!

[wweman14]

But doesn't change the fact that it is outdated. You need to understand that these constant shootouts are keeping the playerbase up. Enforce RP if you think people are DMing, not limiting shootouts. I'm quite inactive atm due to bad schedules but I've seen some pics. Things are out of control, but what the HQ presented as a solution is not. I said this before:

Please, think of another solution to this BIG concern. This actually makes me thing the A-Team isn't capable of handling their duty, actually. Stop being lazy!

They think we dont roleplay, but we do, i dont see any complains from the other side that much, maybe some moaning but besides that its fine. A team just doesnt get criminal groups rp

[Cyril]

They think we dont roleplay, but we do, i dont see any complains from the other side that much, maybe some moaning but besides that its fine. A team just doesnt get criminal groups rp

You are the one that doesn't get criminal roleplay.
If you think being a criminal allows you to go and kill everyone you want then you are wrong.
Criminal roleplay involved doing criminal activities and not be noticed by cops.

Anyway, this issue is being discussed and a brainstorming has been opened on the Administration board.

[Stivi]

Criminal roleplay involved doing criminal activities and not be noticed by cops.

This is not our fault. Yet the OWNER'S.

We were told there will be scripted wars, where ?
We were told there would be territories for groups, so they could win something after a fight, where ?

How 'bout we leave it as it is ?

[Cyril]

This is not our fault. Yet the OWNER'S.

We were told there will be scripted wars, where ?
We were told there would be territories for groups, so they could win something after a fight, where ?

How 'bout we leave it as it is ?

This is still in development, I asked about it yesterday.
And no we won't leave it as it is because we don't want the server to turn into some RS4 TDM server.
We will re-focus to the main principle of this server: roleplaying.

[Stivi]

This is still in development, I asked about it yesterday.

As well as 4/6 of rs5. Wonder when we will get it.

And no we won't leave it as it is because we don't want the server to turn into some RS4 TDM server.

Hey there Manager Cyril, how about admins put some time into spectating it if it's legit or not ? I myself call the A-Team to spectate a lot and I never found a problem with it.

We will re-focus to the main principle of this server: roleplaying.

Are you saying that RP wasn't this server's main principle before ? Enforce it. Get your jungle of rules about what is forcing to rp and what is not wanting to rp and throw them in a bin. Then make a new one, and a topic explaining it all. Then train the a-team. Then live happily ever after.

[wweman14]

You are the one that doesn't get criminal roleplay.
If you think being a criminal allows you to go and kill everyone you want then you are wrong.
Criminal roleplay involved doing criminal activities and not be noticed by cops.

Anyway, this issue is being discussed and a brainstorming has been opened on the Administration board.

Do NOT put words in my mouth. I never said it was okay to go and blast everyone. Criminals kill eachother, whoever is getting killed by a criminal is involved IN the criminal world, we dont kill innocents.  Many admins have a biased opinion, i dont see you guys saying anything for SAPD, but they wrongfully kill suspects all day. Most people on the admin team are high ranked LEO's, so it would be understandable why you think that way. Please, one day turn off /aduty and have no bias, and just watch how it happens, i think that will help. Sometimes we dont even want to participate in a war but thats impossible because the other side rolls up to our hoods with no phone call, we cant say no so we have to.

[Acika]

I love it how another group knowing it cant win, starts a war and when it ends badly for them they go whining and claiming how others are DMing.
Of course noone wants to be on a losing side, people want to be with the best ones.
Also, calling former, official group a small group, must really hurt. And to answer Jov's question - putting a true leader, capable to organize others will help that group.

PS: Only official alliance out there is Gvardia - Luciano one as far as i know. Others are respected and friendly based.

[wweman14]

I love it how another group knowing it cant win, starts a war and when it ends badly for them they go whining and claiming how others are DMing.
Of course noone wants to be on a losing side, people want to be with the best ones.
Also, calling former, official group a small group, must really hurt. And to answer Jov's question - putting a true leader, capable to organize others will help that group.

PS: Only official alliance out there is Gvardia - Luciano one as far as i know. Others are respected and friendly based.

Very good point acika, i agree. The "Brotherhood" is a roleplay term for Luciano and its friends, NOT alliances.

[Cyril]

Very good point acika, i agree. The "Brotherhood" is a roleplay term for Luciano and its friends, NOT alliances.

Alliance: a merging of efforts or interests by persons, families, states, or organizations.
This is exactly what is happening when you are all grouping together against Ballas-CM.

[[Rstar]Peter]

4. Alliances.
Mass alliances with many groups (that operate as a very large gang) are not allowed. Alliances such as the "Riff's alliance" and "The Commission" are not allowed, as they can cause segregation to smaller groups and have been known to cause deathmatching. Alliances between one clan/ group and another are ok. 


You're changing the definition of "Alliance", Acika/Ricky.

[Hamza_Khan]

Sometimes we dont even want to participate in a war but thats impossible because the other side rolls up to our hoods with no phone call, we cant say no so we have to.

That's what happening from the last few days, we really had no choice other than answer them!

[wweman14]

Alliance: a merging of efforts or interests by persons, families, states, or organizations.
This is exactly what is happening when you are all grouping together against Ballas-CM.

Are you here everyday when that happens? Do you know exact numbers? It takes this many groups in a brotherhood to equal them. Most of the time we are out numbered but that doesnt stop us. Last night there was 20 of the brotherhood and about the same number of CM and NBA. I dont see the problem here.
SAPD is allianced with FBI,SWAT,ASID. Does that mean we gotta seperate em? I follow this quote strongly "The enemy of my enemy is my friend"

[wweman14]

Like, let us do our thing. No one disagrees with it besides admins and some bad sports. To be honest, without the criminals, LEO's would be bored to hell and the player count would be low, CM NBA Luciano Gvardia and all the other criminal groups involved is keeping the server alive. I respect my enemies and im glad we have em, it makes shit interesting