Gang Wars FAQ

[Acika]

Dear Peter, my old Luciano,

Let me clear something for you.

Group that came to SF (out of its town) to start a fight is Corleone, criminal mafia, Ballas, local gang, Svenssons, farmers and random players.
(I personally dont see how are these groups connected, roleplay wise)

Another group are all mafias. Gvardia-Luciano(Allied over years); Vendito, Forlenza, Falcone - most of the members and leaders of these groups were mostly Luciano and Gvardia members. We, me personally, supported them when they decided to open their own families and offered our help.

- Do you see a clear difference between groups ?
- Do you want to force all of these players, from group B, to come back, put their tag they used to have and have two families on one side ? (Which i think is really bad because more groups have much more to offer to the server)

Luciano, over years, was supporting new players, accepting them and helping them-making friends, while other side was playing a different way.
The way they worked is what they are getting back now.

[Mikal]

Combat shotguns should be removed, they are too supportive of the 'remove from ass and insta-kill' tactic that a certain 'Mafia' in this topic uses.

[[Rstar]Peter]

Dear Peter, my old Luciano,

Let me clear something for you.

Group that came to SF (out of its town) to start a fight is Corleone, criminal mafia, Ballas, local gang, Svenssons, farmers and random players.
(I personally dont see how are these groups connected, roleplay wise)

Another group are all mafias. Gvardia-Luciano(Allied over years); Vendito, Forlenza, Falcone - most of the members and leaders of these groups were mostly Luciano and Gvardia members. We, me personally, supported them when they decided to open their own families and offered our help.

- Do you see a clear difference between groups ?
- Do you want to force all of these players, from group B, to come back, put their tag they used to have and have two families on one side ? (Which i think is really bad because more groups have much more to offer to the server)

Luciano, over years, was supporting new players, accepting them and helping them-making friends, while other side was playing a different way.
The way they worked is what they are getting back now.

I'm not talking about the yesterday and our recent wars, admins/managers were in the scene and they know everything which they are supposed to know.

That's the point exactly, there is bunch of new families nowadays, which all of them are leading by Luciano/Gvardia "directly".

We will help everyone, not those one who "asking us to join the family only", even if they are an enemy group member.
True, we don't let every strangers to put on our tags and walk around us, but yeah we will help those strangers to be a Veteran, then they can feel free to apply, its simple.

[wweman14]

4. Alliances.
Mass alliances with many groups (that operate as a very large gang) are not allowed. Alliances such as the "Riff's alliance" and "The Commission" are not allowed, as they can cause segregation to smaller groups and have been known to cause deathmatching. Alliances between one clan/ group and another are ok. 


You're changing the definition of "Alliance", Acika/Ricky.

CM Daniel:
As long as this won't turn into a DMing fiasco like The Commission, I'll give it a shot

Org. Name: The Corleone Maffia
First leader: Daniel_Corleone
2nd in command: None chosen yet
HQ: Mansion in Mullholland
City your build in: Los Santos & Countryside



^ Application for the Riffs Alliance... How ironic.

[Boozman]

CM Daniel:
As long as this won't turn into a DMing fiasco like The Commission, I'll give it a shot

Org. Name: The Corleone Maffia
First leader: Daniel_Corleone
2nd in command: None chosen yet
HQ: Mansion in Mullholland
City your build in: Los Santos & Countryside



^ Application for the Riffs Alliance... How ironic.

This application for Riff's Alliance was from 2007, 5 years before the mass alliance rule was created.

[Acika]

I'm not talking about the yesterday and our recent wars, admins/managers were in the scene and they know everything which they are supposed to know.

That's the point exactly, there is bunch of new families nowadays, which all of them are leading by Luciano/Gvardia "directly".

We will help everyone, not those one who "asking us to join the family only", even if they are an enemy group member.
True, we don't let every strangers to put on our tags and walk around us, but yeah we will help those strangers to be a Veteran, then they can feel free to apply, its simple.

Well said, that's why you need help from administration now.

Small groups that are lead by Luciano and Gvardia are groups that were formed by its own members, it's natural, we support them and help them with that.
Gozlan Family - Leader Donatello(long Luciano member)
Falcone - Leader Rumen/Silvester(Luciano members till yesterday)
Vendito - moj brat Demir and others
Florenza - Leaders my great friends and ex members

I hope some things are more clearer to you now, and smart ones can see alot from this.

[wweman14]

This application for Riff's Alliance was from 2007, 5 years before the mass alliance rule was created.

Yeah but he is shunning what his boss signed up for.

[Cofiliano]

Yes, we can.
As I was not aware of group rules and stuff, by reading them, I came to the point that some groups are currently breaking most of the rules that were made for them.
We will now start applying them. I don't care if you like or not.
I'm not inventing them, they were made by Gandalf.

No you cant, you  can just make it pointless, believe me I already know five ways to make it legit.

Its funny how you apply rules made by Gandalf when it suits you, and when they dont suit you, you ignore them, and apply rules that you guys made up.

Show some principles, this isn't your private server, it belongs to all of us as much as it belongs to you,if not even more. And  we are all waiting for you to answer Frank Hawks question. You are a manager, you got responsibility  to address the public and talk about issues and problems, and specially with the leaders of the biggest groups on it.

[TiMoN]

why cant we all live in peace  why do we have to 

[Boozman]

Yeah but he is shunning what his boss signed up for.

Perhaps you missed the part where i said 5 years. Do you have any idea how much the server/community has changed since 2007? Not just from a script standpoint, but the community as a whole is nothing like it was in 2007.

[wweman14]

I rest my case. I will let my boss talk.

[Frank_Hawk]

Dear Peter, my old Luciano,

Let me clear something for you.

Group that came to SF (out of its town) to start a fight is Corleone, criminal mafia, Ballas, local gang, Svenssons, farmers and random players.
(I personally dont see how are these groups connected, roleplay wise)

Another group are all mafias. Gvardia-Luciano(Allied over years); Vendito, Forlenza, Falcone - most of the members and leaders of these groups were mostly Luciano and Gvardia members. We, me personally, supported them when they decided to open their own families and offered our help.

- Do you see a clear difference between groups ?
- Do you want to force all of these players, from group B, to come back, put their tag they used to have and have two families on one side ? (Which i think is really bad because more groups have much more to offer to the server)

Luciano, over years, was supporting new players, accepting them and helping them-making friends, while other side was playing a different way.
The way they worked is what they are getting back now.

I disagree with you.

- GSF is the core reason for our interaction, since Luciano decided to intervene between NBA and GSF (giving protection to GSF).
- Gvardia was dragged into this, since they are allied to Luciano.
- Corleone was dragged into the wider strategic battle of Los Santos (being rivals with Gvardia and Luciano)

The above is a perfectly valid reason for the role plays being seen in-game.

Luciano is not only responsible for developing new criminals - the NBA is very active at it too and it forms part of our core mission.

I have no issue with all these battles in-game - it's positive for the community and actively increasing player turnover which is great.

[Bundy]

I have no issue with all these battles in-game - it's positive for the community and actively increasing player turnover which is great.

Exactly, why the hell is everybody crying? A couple of months ago there weren't even players online...

[Acika]

I disagree with you.

- GSF is the core reason for our interaction, since Luciano decided to intervene between NBA and GSF (giving protection to GSF).
- Gvardia was dragged into this, since they are allied to GSF.
- Corleone was dragged into the wider strategic battle of Los Santos (being rivals with Gvardia and Luciano)

The above is a perfectly valid reason for the role plays being seen in-game.

Luciano is not only responsible for developing new criminals - the NBA is very active at it too and it forms part of our core mission.

I have no issue with all these battles in-game - it's positive for the community and actively increasing player turnover which is great.

I can't recall that the past fights were groove vs ballas - gang wars, they were mafia wars.

I understand what you want to say, but it's not what its all about here.

What is happening here is:
Group A organises and attacks group B - Perfect, all fine
Group B organises and attacks group A - Rulebreak

[Frank_Hawk]

I can't recall that the past fights were groove vs ballas - gang wars, they were mafia wars.

I understand what you want to say, but it's not what its all about here.

What is happening here is:
Group A organises and attacks group B - Perfect, all fine
Group B organises and attacks group A - Rulebreak

Thanks for your response - though it would be prudent not to comment on the wider picture when you're not involved from the beginning.

My post summarises how all these groups and 'super groups' came into interaction forming a valid reason to RP with each other.

I haven't seen any large scale rule breaking occurring in-game and where it has occured, admins have intervened accordingly.

What we cannot accept is where double standards and unfair sanctions are being applied - they must be addressed.