Robbing is Forcing RP?

[Aksel]

Didn't say in any way at all lol Ofcourse, If you're a cop and you just kill the suspect newbie by keep firing at him even if he's just standing unarmed. You'll get frozen and warned, I have seen that happen.

You didn't say that

[Ted]

Didn't say in any way at all lol Ofcourse, If you're a cop and you just kill the suspect newbie by keep firing at him even if he's just standing unarmed. You'll get frozen and warned, I have seen that happen.
Proved my point that you're in a bad mood.   

Of course the player is standing still so while maybe not showing much in terms of compliance there is nothing to warrant outright killing the player with a gun(Regardless of being new or not). Bad practice as an officer if you ask me. If the player is new they may need explaining what they could possibly do.

[oshri1094]

No attention should be paid to Matt Murdock and his posts.

[Matt Murdock]

Of course the player is standing still so while maybe not showing much in terms of compliance there is nothing to warrant outright killing the player with a gun(Regardless of being new or not). Bad practice as an officer if you ask me. If the player is new they may need explaining what they could possibly do.

You got what I meant exactly.

No attention should be paid to Matt Murdock and his posts.

Ok, Is it since I unmasked who you are? 

[Mikro]

Why the hell are we even talking about this rule in terms of ROLEPLAY???

You rob a person and kill him if he does not want to give you money or claims to not have any? How simple, how stupid, how creative-less and shit is that! Serious! Is that even called roleplay? Maybe when you roleplay a person that is really sick minded and kills every random guy.

What is wrong with everything is that the REAL roleplay disappeared. Why do you need to kill someone if what you get is not what you want (what you get here is wanted level and bullet loose, what you want is money)? This sentance, yes, "WHAT YOU WANT". There is the forced roleplay. When I rob someone I try to be CREATIVE. Use smart methods, keep it simple and funny. Someone does not want to give me money? I put my silenced gun in his dick and TRY to find the wallet and run away when I only get $5, his jacket or an angry reaction. I don't want to get caught, that would fuck up my whole character!

Point is, killing is done WAY too much. With normal robberies there is no logic in killing, since it gives you NOTHING, which goes straight against what your goal originally was.

Come on guys, where is the roleplay I described? Where is the Argonath roleplay, the base of this whole server?

[Dexter]

I did not read all comments so excuse me if I repeat someone.

But seriously refusing to roleplay on roleplay server? If you do not want to roleplay then do not connect here roleplay server. Also refusing to roleplay some situation what you happen to dislike..is actually forcing others (this case robbers) to play on your way.

Scene of robbery. You go and say to other person that you are robbing him. He refuses to pay up. Do you go and kill him just like that? Nah, if you are smart roleplayer. If you do kill him then you are just showing your own lack of roleplay. You can for example torture this guy first. Tho, in many cases  they fight back and you gotta give fatal shot. Then they go whine to admins that you force rp..only because they did not like how it ended.

Everyone should just understand that this is MULTIPLAYER thing going on. You are not playing some story from single player mod where you can make decisions how you game go. There is server full of people who actually have REAL minds. Not scripted ones who always repeats samething. Learn to get along or be mad all the time how things does not go as you wish.

[Mikal]

Yeah, apparently you're allowed to refuse to roleplay in a roleplay server.

This is what sometimes causes a lack of RP, many people only play Argonath to get money and buy big things, not to roleplay.

Remember, if you don't extend your arm before you point your gun at the person your robbing, your a bad roleplayer. *sarcasm* 

[Chris_Knight]

Good points stated here. My self I disagree that you are free to refuse roleplay because your fingers are too heavy to use keyboard or you sold your creativity to aliens. At same time I disagree that someone have to die because he refused to comply with your will.

[Mikal]

Good point Chris.

[Pandalink]

Orders from President:
All cops, criminals and others present on server are obliged to RP.

[Kvinlan_Marr]

Didn't say in any way at all lol Ofcourse, If you're a cop and you just kill the suspect newbie by keep firing at him even if he's just standing unarmed. You'll get frozen and warned, I have seen that happen.
Proved my point that you're in a bad mood.   

You're turning into a up-failed troll.

[Matt Murdock]

This is what sometimes causes a lack of RP, many people only play Argonath to get money and buy big things, not to roleplay.

Remember, if you don't extend your arm before you point your gun at the person your robbing, your a bad roleplayer. *sarcasm* 

I'm kind of sure, that those who moan about no roleplay, are the ones not roleplaying the most.

How many of you RP with a new person when it comes to drugs? I bet none of you do.

* Matt Murdock looks around.

* Matt Murdock approaches the man standing near the tree.

* Matt Murdock observes.

/l Hey, Whats up?

instead, all the moaning and crying people about no Roleplay go like  :
/pm id Sell weed??
/pm id Sell weed??
/pm id Sell weed??

If you're not going to roleplay with the new people, how can you even imagine giving them the idea that this is a roleplay server?
And if you yourself are not doing something right, how can you even blame others?

[oshri1094]

I'm kind of sure, that those who moan about no roleplay, are the ones not roleplaying the most.

How many of you RP with a new person when it comes to drugs? I bet none of you do.

* Matt Murdock looks around.

* Matt Murdock approaches the man standing near the tree.

* Matt Murdock observes.

/l Hey, Whats up?

instead, all the moaning and crying people about no Roleplay go like  :
/pm id Sell weed??
/pm id Sell weed??
/pm id Sell weed??

If you're not going to roleplay with the new people, how can you even imagine giving them the idea that this is a roleplay server?
And if you yourself are not doing something right, how can you even blame others?

You make me laugh, but what you tried to say is very true.

[JDC]

I did not bother to read the comments as almost all topics of this sort contain pretty much the same comments anyway.

If you walk up to someone and kill them when they do not pay the money you ask, you sure as fuck are not roleplaying; you are deathmatching for money, which is an entirely different thing from roleplaying.

Guy does not want you to pay up? Why don't you blackmail him (RP-wise) or make him suffer in one way or another?

Guy really does not want to RP a robbery? Why not use your imagination to turn the RP into something else then? An example would be making him the target of an RP mafia harassment if you play a mafioso.

Many of these problems can be solved through improvising. Improvising requires imagination, and the problem is that people have become far too generic in their styles instead of using their imagination, meaning they lose the ability to improvise.

Initiate, Imagine, and Improvise. Three abilities every creative roleplayer must have; no RP is going to happen if someone does not start it.

Conclusion? Get off your ass, stop complaining, and start roleplaying. You will be surprised at what you can find.

[[NP]Monte Montague]

Yeah, apparently you're allowed to refuse to roleplay in a roleplay server.

When you join server:

1. This is a role play server. Please stay within decent realms of role play.
Post Merge: April 23, 2012, 04:48:46 pm

I did not bother to read the comments as almost all topics of this sort contain pretty much the same comments anyway.

Great generalizing and analysis of each persons views and opinions - was it even really needed to say that other than to cover your own backside if someone responded to your post? But yea there is always general thoughts.

If you walk up to someone and kill them when they do not pay the money you ask, you sure as f**k are not roleplaying; you are deathmatching for money, which is an entirely different thing from roleplaying.

Let's put that to a vote :O.
With cops - Surrender now! Guy doesn't surrender - look you did /s2, /s3 - now you can kill him, when it's pretty much the same sense of 'role play' someone try's to rob someone - he refuses to pay up - struggle, man shot dead.

Guy does not want you to pay up? Why don't you blackmail him (RP-wise) or make him suffer in one way or another?

Making him suffer would be torture and then death, I may be robbing for food in my tummy and don't want to waste energy on torture so I tell him straight, give me money or you die.

Guy really does not want to RP a robbery? Why not use your imagination to turn the RP into something else then? An example would be making him the target of an RP mafia harassment if you play a mafioso.

When I get robbed I do /me has heart attack, robber sympathizes.

Many of these problems can be solved through improvising. Improvising requires imagination, and the problem is that people have become far too generic in their styles instead of using their imagination, meaning they lose the ability to improvise.

As generic as what you mentioned at the beginning of this post?
People are not generic they just say "NO" to someone who wants to rob them and doesn't look so tough.
If someone came up to me, boney old bugger with a gun and he looked weak and said "give me your money" I would be like what? You're 1 boney old man get out of my face. Next second due to my ignorance I was shot dead.

Now if for example a Mafia comes up to you like yesterday in Bay-side and surrounds you slowly, you either give in or you run for your sweet life of course I set my bizzfee to $2000 and fled to my bizz, they still came and shot me dead before help could come.

Initiate, Imagine, and Improvise. Three abilities every creative roleplayer must have; no RP is going to happen if someone does not start it.

Yes but the server has much of this, for example - FIRE MISSIONS. I will say no more on that controversial subject.

Conclusion? Get off your ass, stop complaining, and start roleplaying. You will be surprised at what you can find.

That's a complaint in itself and people are not lazy and do not shy away from roleplay on purpose, they are just misguided and confused!!
Post Merge: April 23, 2012, 04:51:32 pm

This is what sometimes causes a lack of RP, many people only play Argonath to get money and buy big things, not to roleplay.

Remember, if you don't extend your arm before you point your gun at the person your robbing, your a bad roleplayer. *sarcasm* 

Role Play.
Let's analyses it.

*Sticks finger up the words BEEEEEEEEEEP*.

Choose a role and play it.
It is human nature to want more of good stuff, if not then you are just lazy.
Most peoples natural roles are businessmen - gold hunters, aspiring millionaires.

Post Merge: April 23, 2012, 04:55:48 pm

At same time I disagree that someone have to die because he refused to comply with your will.

That's life, human nature!
Don't agree? We're not having that.

That's how we got stuff like Hitler and Bush and Al Qaeda, fucked up yea but it happens.
It also happens with science especially - Greek man: the fack? No man our eyes shine light outward and that's how we see! Greek man 2: no... light comes in to our eyes and we see. 
People are naturally defiant if they don't see much of a threat.
But like stated above, if mafia comes then you shit yo pants or you act real tough depending on how much candy you had.
Post Merge: April 23, 2012, 04:57:54 pm

But seriously refusing to roleplay on roleplay server? If you do not want to roleplay then do not connect here roleplay server. Also refusing to roleplay some situation what you happen to dislike..is actually forcing others (this case robbers) to play on your way.

Good show lad.
But yes decent realms of roleplay is welcome, any amount of bullying or harassment is just plain suck man.
Post Merge: April 23, 2012, 04:59:32 pm

No attention should be paid to Matt Murdock and his posts.

This is a public forum, don't want to read someones posts don't.
Wait read this thread: http://www.argonathrpg.eu/forum/index.php?topic=83057.0
Post Merge: April 23, 2012, 05:07:57 pmPost Disclaimer:

You should not take any of what I just said as true or something you should follow.
I accept no liability, read for your own entertainment.
Good day.