Do not lower yourselves / zero tolerance policy

[Gandalf]

Those of you playing at night for European time know that there are often visitors that are not welcome.
These people are often named abers, after the name they give them selves and the server they advertise.
To make it clear on how we stand towards them:

• The owner of ab Kalle Anka has nothing to do with any of this and regards any reference to these people with the name ab as wrong
• We have full IP logs of anyone who enters and leaves the server and can identify present and past nicks including all changes
• We are in communication with the owner and main admins
• From now on we follow a zero-tolerance procedure where the owner of ab is informed of people abusing his name and providers are reported for abuse.

From our players we ask to be and not to go down to the level of certain individuals that think they are doing a favor to their server, or just try to make a war between these servers. We do not allow our players to hack, crash or flame in the name or Argonath on other servers, no matter who this other servers are.
Any players that we receive report (with logs) of or that we notice has breeched these rules will be punished.


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[Aragorn]

Those people who come on Argonath and crash our server, flame, flood and spam in the name of ab do bad work for the owner Kalle Anka more then they think we do with our server... If ab does not want its name be assosiated with crashers, flooders and spammers, look for reason at your own lands...

I also want to ask our players - do NOT answer on their provokes... We are building the professional portal of GTA gamers... And we do NOT want to be the same level as players from ab server...

I understand you guys, you think we do nothing... It is wRONg... We do... But we were patient to the crashers from well-known server to get more info on IPs and providers... Also we gave them chance to stop the bullshit by themselves... And if they will not stop - we'll start act, but already without ANY warning to them and dialog... Without ANY cooperation with ab administration... All our action will be streight to the providers of breakers the internet etiquette...

Tonight three guys made an answered attack on ab... I dunno what was really there, hope - nothing a lot... But... Do not do it please... I appriciate that our players reacted negative on attacks from ab players, I appriciate that your feelings are with our server... But please... Do not answer the same... You have Admins that can handle it ANYWAY - with cooperation or without... Do not start dialogs with the abers about situation between servers... Do not let them start blame you in everything...

We are not sleeping, I repeat... And we know EVERYTHING they do on our server... IPs and actions...
So leave it to Gandalf (=MS=RONNEL), and Aragorn (=MS=RON)...

For admins: it does not mean you must allow them sit on server... Any action from ab community against Argonath community on our server - immidiately ban... Every ban evader - ban...

If they wanna really stop the war (I have feelings it is a trick), they will respect OUR LAW in OUR LAND...
If they wanna remove ban - they must write a letter to the Argonath administration...
If you see ban evader - ban... If he evaded - he does not respect us - no any talk...

If they want a war - they will get it. This war will be till the end, and we'll not give up, if they think we are too weak and sick...
We have more strict methods against them... And if they will brake the line again - they will see what does it mean - to open your mouth and use hacks on our server and how it will be finished...

All has its limits and they took all our patience...

[Gandalf]

I want to add one this to this to avoid confusion.
Not every attacker, deathmatcher, hacker and spammer that visits our server is from ab.
There are a lot of people who enjoy going around servers to ruin the game. Also we had visits from other servers and cheater clans like XE and DMC, or cheating DM like MM.
So do not call every hacker or flooder as coming from ab, this is not the truth.
If they take the title themselves, yes, but do not think they are all from one place.

[Sirricharic]

why dont we just call the cops and give them the ip that will stop them

[Watti]

but they already have the IP

[Aragorn]

why dont we just call the cops and give them the ip that will stop them

That is the last action for inet administration... And as the last action that puts the end to everything for rule breakers we should not hurry... We were waiting to have a prove that ab community uses hacks on our server (admins or players) regular...

This REGULAR is the main prove for provider...
That is why we were waiting when we'll have more then one prove against hackers from ab server...

I also do not have any trust that they will stop... I know that community very good... Smiling at your face and suggesting friendship and peace, they will try to kill you from the back... That is why all admins should work as usual and do not forget to put the !time when this hackers will come again... That is all we need to trace them...

[Gandalf]

(20:24:36) JOIN: '[AB]Pwnz', PlayerID = 5 (217.121.12.20)
(20:24:36) Join: 5©[AB]Pwnz©217.121.12.20©
(20:24:53) ---> [AB]Pwnz: like , fuck u. owned

IP identified.
Provider informed.

[Watti]

why are people stupid enought to try crash a server

[drago]

man i hate crashers, dmers, hackers and all who do not follow the rulez :rules: