President Obama supports gay / same-sex marriage

[JDC]

US President Barack Obama took a calculated gamble and stepped into the political unknown Wednesday with his firm public backing for gay marriage, after a long period of personal soul searching.

Obama's move, in an interview with ABC News, sent seismic waves through pre-election politics and sparked immediate speculation as to whether he had hindered his chances of winning a second term in November.

But it also led his election foe Mitt Romney and his Republicans onto tricky ground, as the party's social conservative base opposes same sex marriage, even as it becomes quickly more accepted across the broader political spectrum.

"I've just concluded, for me, personally, it is important for me to go ahead and affirm that I think same-sex couples should be able to get married," Obama said, unveiling his bombshell.

Obama has now abandoned the sheltered but increasingly untenable position that he was "evolving" on gay marriage. The risks are clear, and dictated Obama's previous stance, despite fierce pressure for a more unequivocal stance from Obama's liberal base.

The sudden injection of a divisive moral-social question could hit Obama's prospects in battleground states that he needs in November. He has always had trouble connecting with white, blue collar, socially conservative swing voters, and Wednesday's move will hardly help.

A case in point is North Carolina, which Obama won by less than one percent in 2012. On Tuesday 61 percent in the state voted to ban gay marriage, civil unions and domestic partnerships. Some observers feel Obama could face a backlash from religious Hispanic and African-American voters, who helped sweep him into the White House in 2008.

"There may be a few white, religious Democrats whom he could lose in Ohio," said Professor Paul Beck of Ohio State University, adding that some Hispanics could drift away in Colorado or Florida.

"Still, I think the numbers will be small who are swayed at all by the position he took today," he said, ahead of an election shaping up to be dominated by the lagging economy.

Conservatives pledged to make Obama pay.

"Today's announcement almost ensures that marriage will again be a major issue in the presidential election," said Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council.

A senior Obama aide said it was unclear how the marriage issue would play politically, especially in battleground states such as Ohio. Democrats shudder when they recall how ballot initiatives in swing states on social issues drove up Republican turnout in 2004 and helped defeat their presidential candidate John Kerry.

Dennis Goldford, a professor of political science at Drake University, Iowa, suggested Obama's decision reflected an "electoral and strategic calculation."

Democrats are more likely to favor gay rights, and those who most oppose the concept tend to be conservatives who would never vote for Obama anyway, he said.

"The question is whether there is anybody in the muddled middle on this issue, that this might alienate. But we don't know at this point."

It is just possible that Obama has pulled off a political master stroke, and decided to ride changing attitudes just at the right moment. As another senior official explained, public perceptions on gay marriage are changing more quickly than almost any other political issue in America. More people are coming into contact with families with single sex parents -- a point Obama made in his interview when he said that he had talked about the issue with his girls, Malia and Sasha.

A Washington Post poll suggests that the US public has, like Obama, been evolving.

In 2006, only 36 percent backed legalizing same-sex marriage, but in the latest poll, 52 percent said they were for it. The decision was greeted with joy in the gay and lesbian community and is certain to fire up Obama's political base, and give younger supporters seen as less energized than in 2008 a jolt. Wealthy gay and lesbian voters are also important contributors to Obama's reelection campaign.

One more question about Obama's move on Wednesday was: Why now?

He seems to have been pushed by Vice President Joe Biden, who said on NBC on Sunday that he was "absolutely comfortable" with same-sex marriage.

A senior Obama official said that though Biden's move had advanced the process, the president had already concluded that he had to come out for gay marriage before the Democratic National Convention in September.

The official also used the issue to draw a sharp contrast with Romney, who the Obama camp has been portraying as extreme in a bid to limit his appeal to the key political middle. He noted that Obama now favored gay marriage while Romney wanted to enshrine discrimination with a federal amendment to the US Constitution to ban it.

"I believe marriage is a relationship between a man and a woman," Romney said Wednesday. "I know other people have differing views, and this is a tender and sensitive topic."

Source: Yahoo! News


I say this is a daring move that could leave major repercussions.

Thoughts?

[Radagast]

Good for him. At least he has the spine to say something (even if controversial), unlike many of the other "yes men".

[SafetyMoose]

He has royal screwed any chance of re-election now.

[Allison]

Still got my vote. Definitely.

[Dutchy]

It's the 21st century, who gives a fuck if a donkey marries a frog.

[Que]

Obama for president.

[Mikal]

He has royal screwed any chance of re-election now.

Not really, you got a bunch of gays going 'Oh muh gaad, I love Obama, and his hair.... So cute.'

[aleksandar_gojkovic]

I compleatly understand his decision.

In Serbia, we beat gays to death, and than cops attempt to arrest us for that. (only reason cops are doing that is because, whell, if they dont do it, they loose theyre jobs...)

Only 20 years AGO being gay was considered a mental illnes... Now, IT IS OK?! WE ARE ALL DA SAME?!

FFS WE ARE NOT! God created us DIFFRENT, he did not want the same, he created DIFFRENT! In case of gays, he made a mistake. Churches all over the world are calling gayness something unholy, evil, wicked, BAD!

Now, there ya go, a president, giving permission to that... That is abnormal! I cant bealive that a someone could do such a thing!

If it was up to me i would:

Step No.1:
Make a facilities wich would take LGBT people for up to 3 years. They would be in rehab for 3 years, and in that way, they would get a chance to correct theyre life. If gays "fixed up", they would be freed. If not, step 2 is coming.

Step No.2:
If there was no progress, they would be sent to a concentration camp for gays. There they would get a 1 add on period to become normal. Ones that would succede would be let out of there, BUT, they wouldnt be able to employ for 1 year.

Step No.3:
If ste 1 or 2 dont succede, all those gays that did not get fixed, they would be shot.


End of story. No more gays, and we get a mroe pure planet.

Note:

I would leave a couple of lesbians, just for porn industry 

[Dolfagr]

What the hell did I just read above?

Obama 'First Gay President' According To Newsweek Cover

[Hevar.]

I think Justin Bieber is happy now =)

[Ratko Gavrilovic]

"CHANGE"
You got it.

[Squeak]

I compleatly understand his decision.

In Serbia, we beat gays to death, and than cops attempt to arrest us for that. (only reason cops are doing that is because, whell, if they dont do it, they loose theyre jobs...)

Only 20 years AGO being gay was considered a mental illnes... Now, IT IS OK?! WE ARE ALL DA SAME?!

FFS WE ARE NOT! God created us DIFFRENT, he did not want the same, he created DIFFRENT! In case of gays, he made a mistake. Churches all over the world are calling gayness something unholy, evil, wicked, BAD!

Now, there ya go, a president, giving permission to that... That is abnormal! I cant bealive that a someone could do such a thing!

If it was up to me i would:

Step No.1:
Make a facilities wich would take LGBT people for up to 3 years. They would be in rehab for 3 years, and in that way, they would get a chance to correct theyre life. If gays "fixed up", they would be freed. If not, step 2 is coming.

Step No.2:
If there was no progress, they would be sent to a concentration camp for gays. There they would get a 1 add on period to become normal. Ones that would succede would be let out of there, BUT, they wouldnt be able to employ for 1 year.

Step No.3:
If ste 1 or 2 dont succede, all those gays that did not get fixed, they would be shot.


End of story. No more gays, and we get a mroe pure planet.

Yes, let's waste billions of dollars on an issue that is created by your backwards thinking. You're proposing imprisoning someone because of their sexual orientation, why does it matter so much to you?

Let the queers get married and be miserable like everyone else.

[Leon.]

It's the 21st century, who gives a f**k if a donkey marries a frog.

^^^
I see no reason to deny other people equality if it has little to no effect on my life. Allowing gay marriage doesn't deprive anyone of rights, it just prevents discrimination. This applies to other "sensitive subjects" as well, like abortion/birth control.

The saddest part is that anti-abortion/same-sex marriage laws somehow originate from religion, completely disregarding the separation of church and state principles my country supposedly stands for. But I won't get into that. Shitstorms are eminent.

[Oliver]

In Serbia, we beat gays to death, and than cops attempt to arrest us for that. (only reason cops are doing that is because, whell, if they dont do it, they loose theyre jobs...)

Here the police arrest the parents of the gay person who's been beaten up.

I would leave a couple of lesbians, just for porn industry 

You suck so hard.

[Gimli]

In Serbia, we beat gays to death, and than cops attempt to arrest us for that. (only reason cops are doing that is because, whell, if they dont do it, they loose theyre jobs...)

Only 20 years AGO being gay was considered a mental illnes... Now, IT IS OK?! WE ARE ALL DA SAME?!

FFS WE ARE NOT! God created us DIFFRENT, he did not want the same, he created DIFFRENT! In case of gays, he made a mistake. Churches all over the world are calling gayness something unholy, evil, wicked, BAD!

Now, there ya go, a president, giving permission to that... That is abnormal! I cant bealive that a someone could do such a thing!

If it was up to me i would:

Step No.1:
Make a facilities wich would take LGBT people for up to 3 years. They would be in rehab for 3 years, and in that way, they would get a chance to correct theyre life. If gays "fixed up", they would be freed. If not, step 2 is coming.

Step No.2:
If there was no progress, they would be sent to a concentration camp for gays. There they would get a 1 add on period to become normal. Ones that would succede would be let out of there, BUT, they wouldnt be able to employ for 1 year.

Step No.3:
If ste 1 or 2 dont succede, all those gays that did not get fixed, they would be shot.

Wow, I'm shocked. I didn't know young people with that sort of mindset still exist, and this is in a country that is a candidate to join the EU in 2014.. :wow: Sounds like a big field of uneducated and ignorant rednecks..