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Reply #105 on: May 20, 2012, 08:29:15 pm
I saw that someone posted that i shouldnt compare magnetism to what we are discussing ATM. I cant remember who posted that. Anyway, here is my reply to that person:

Dude, physics is science. Physics is a nature science (or whatever is it called on english language), and the law of magnetism say that same poles defect each other. Same is with humans. Same sexes should defect each other. End of story. That is the law of nature.

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Reply #106 on: May 20, 2012, 08:36:38 pm
Dude, physics is science. Physics is a nature science (or whatever is it called on english language), and the law of magnetism say that same poles defect each other. Same is with humans. Same sexes should defect each other. End of story. That is the law of nature.
Physics is basically the study of matter and its motion and is a far cry from human mating.


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Reply #107 on: May 20, 2012, 08:42:45 pm
That is the law of nature.
Laws of nature, unlike laws of say a country, are unbreakable. The very existence of homosexuals nullifies your point.



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Reply #108 on: May 20, 2012, 08:43:38 pm
I saw that someone posted that i shouldnt compare magnetism to what we are discussing ATM. I cant remember who posted that. Anyway, here is my reply to that person:

Dude, physics is science. Physics is a nature science (or whatever is it called on english language), and the law of magnetism say that same poles defect each other. Same is with humans. Same sexes should defect each other. End of story. That is the law of nature.

How come cars of the SAME manufactory manages to crash?



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Reply #109 on: May 20, 2012, 09:11:33 pm

Show me exactly the words that say He had homosexual relations with disciples.

Read my posts better. I never said he had homosexual relations. I said he sanctioned a bond between two males.

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Reply #110 on: May 20, 2012, 09:13:42 pm
I saw that someone posted that i shouldnt compare magnetism to what we are discussing ATM. I cant remember who posted that. Anyway, here is my reply to that person:

Dude, physics is science. Physics is a nature science (or whatever is it called on english language), and the law of magnetism say that same poles defect each other. Same is with humans. Same sexes should defect each other. End of story. That is the law of nature.
Then explain Bonobo's, gay wolves and other animals with the same behaviour.
With magnetism the laws are unchangeable, you can not create a defect magnet.
Similar sexual preference that is genetically created can not be altered.

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Reply #111 on: May 20, 2012, 09:21:01 pm
Read my posts better. I never said he had homosexual relations. I said he sanctioned a bond between two males.

Show me where He did this?



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Reply #112 on: May 20, 2012, 09:23:06 pm
Nathan ok then put your own theory to the test. You say it is your choice to be a straight. Now here is a test for you. Go find a video clip of lets say a young quite attractive female pleasuring herself. The result should be that you should get aroused. Now according to you, you can change your orientation. So please do and go to chat-roulette and see if you can get aroused by just seeing the people there as well.

And we do not try to be real life, as why would you ever play real life if you have one ? We play the GTA universe, and our players should try to live in the GTA world, not the real one.



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Reply #113 on: May 20, 2012, 09:53:26 pm
Nathan ok then put your own theory to the test. You say it is your choice to be a straight. Now here is a test for you. Go find a video clip of lets say a young quite attractive female pleasuring herself. The result should be that you should get aroused. Now according to you, you can change your orientation. So please do and go to chat-roulette and see if you can get aroused by just seeing the people there as well.
I see the tables have turned to attacking me personally. Personally, I would like the answers of why should this nonsense be allowed. We can easily see history repeats itself. See ancient Greeks, then enter the loss of morality with acts such as men having sex with other men and the society begins to fall apart, same goes for ancient Romans. Once a country or a nation loses it's morality and a true standard that actually makes sense, it begins to crumble.



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Reply #114 on: May 20, 2012, 10:00:39 pm
I see the tables have turned to attacking me personally. Personally, I would like the answers of why should this nonsense be allowed. We can easily see history repeats itself. See ancient Greeks, then enter the loss of morality with acts such as men having sex with other men and the society begins to fall apart, same goes for ancient Romans. Once a country or a nation loses it's morality and a true standard that actually makes sense, it begins to crumble.
Did you really just blame the fall of Greek and Roman society on homosexuality...


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Reply #115 on: May 20, 2012, 11:26:52 pm
I see the tables have turned to attacking me personally. Personally, I would like the answers of why should this nonsense be allowed. We can easily see history repeats itself. See ancient Greeks, then enter the loss of morality with acts such as men having sex with other men and the society begins to fall apart, same goes for ancient Romans. Once a country or a nation loses it's morality and a true standard that actually makes sense, it begins to crumble.
That makes no sense at all. No one really cared if you were homosexual back in the good ol' days, ESPECIALLY Greece, considering Christianity wasn't around during that time. The Christian church during the late Roman Empire actually set homosexuals on fire.

Homosexuality wasn't considered "abnormal" until Christianity was spread around like leprosy. Everyone was all fine and dandy.



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Reply #116 on: May 20, 2012, 11:32:04 pm
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Dude, physics is science. Physics is a nature science (or whatever is it called on english language), and the law of magnetism say that same poles defect each other. Same is with humans. Same sexes should defect each other. End of story. That is the law of nature.
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I see the tables have turned to attacking me personally. Personally, I would like the answers of why should this nonsense be allowed. We can easily see history repeats itself. See ancient Greeks, then enter the loss of morality with acts such as men having sex with other men and the society begins to fall apart, same goes for ancient Romans. Once a country or a nation loses it's morality and a true standard that actually makes sense, it begins to crumble.
I can't believe what I've just read is for some people a serious argument...



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Reply #117 on: May 20, 2012, 11:52:47 pm
Did you really just blame the fall of Greek and Roman society on homosexuality...

Homosexuality ties to the fall of morals. Alone, of course homosexuality wasn't the key to the fall, but we all know that when the morals dropped, a society is no longer able to function.

That makes no sense at all. No one really cared if you were homosexual back in the good ol' days, ESPECIALLY Greece, considering Christianity wasn't around during that time.
Of course no one cared, but great philosophers such as Plato were against it and knew that it was against the natural.
Homosexuality wasn't considered "abnormal" until Christianity was spread around like leprosy. Everyone was all fine and dandy.
Wrong again. Torah, which was dictated by God to Moses, which has Leviticus in it. As we all know the following were some of the verses:

Leviticus 18:22, "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."

Leviticus 20:13, "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."

Now, I do not accept the death of homosexuals nor favor what the other guy has said about concentration camps, because:

John 13:34, "A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. 35 By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another."

Since it still remains a sin, the follow actions should be taken instead:

Matthew 18:15, "If your brother sins against you, go and show him his fault, just between the two of you. If he listens to you, you have won your brother over.

Therefore, instead of shoving it down their throat saying that they will go to hell and basically shun them out of society, that wont do any good to the person. So instead, a Christian would tell that person his/her fault and that he/she should change it. Again, non in an agressive way because we all know that you can never get anyone to believe using fear.



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Reply #118 on: May 21, 2012, 12:00:34 am
...Now tell me how the second part pertained to my post?



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Reply #119 on: May 21, 2012, 12:06:14 am
...Now tell me how the second part pertained to my post?

You blamed Christians for burning homosexuals. That is like blaming all the current day Germans right now for the Holocaust or blaming all Americans for sending out the Native Americans. Something that happened in the past shouldn't be pertained to current day situations. 



 


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