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Discussion of WWII

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on: May 13, 2012, 03:58:54 pm
Two British servicemen have been shot dead in southern Afghanistan by members of the Afghan national police force, the Ministry of Defence has said.

One was a soldier from 1st Battalion Welsh Guards and the other an airman from the Royal Air Force. The MoD said the two had been providing security near a base in the Lashkar Gah district of Helmand province. Their next of kin have been informed. The number of UK military deaths in Afghanistan since 2001 is now 414.

The men, who were serving as part of an advisory team, were killed on Saturday as they provided security for a meeting with local officials near Patrol Base Attal. Defence Secretary Philip Hammond said he believed one of the gunmen was then killed by his Afghan police colleagues, while a second escaped.

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Reply #1 on: May 17, 2012, 01:51:23 pm
Arnt the police supposed to be helping the British military? :poke:

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Reply #2 on: May 17, 2012, 01:57:40 pm
Arnt the police supposed to be helping the British military? :poke:

You can join the police force if you have a clear background, and guess what: A lot of terrorists are completely clean.



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Reply #3 on: May 17, 2012, 02:11:59 pm
You can join the police force if you have a clear background, and guess what: A lot of terrorists are completely clean.
And thats why Britain should just pull out and leave the country screw itself over.
Innocent British soldiers are dying due to the countries government letting every dick join their armed forces.

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Reply #4 on: May 17, 2012, 02:59:18 pm
And thats why Britain should just pull out and leave the country screw itself over.

It's an illegal war started by Bush anyway so I really don't know what's holding them up there. The answer would probably be profit that western goverments including yours are making out of it.

Innocent British soldiers are dying due to the countries government letting every dick join their armed forces.

My condolences to their families. In a war there will be casualties, and with what we know about Afghanistan and the corruption there including the terrorrism it was a matter of time for this to happen again (It's the 16th time it happens by the way)




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Reply #5 on: May 17, 2012, 03:01:49 pm
It's an illegal war started by Bush anyway so I really don't know what's holding them up there. The answer would probably be profit that western goverments including yours are making out of it.

My condolences to their families. In a war there will be casualties, and with what we know about Afghanistan and the corruption there including the terrorrism it was a matter of time for this to happen again (It's the 16th time it happens by the way)
The 16th time corrupt cops kill military troops? :wow:

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Reply #6 on: May 17, 2012, 04:29:19 pm
He told BBC One's Andrew Marr show so-called green-on-blue attacks - in which members of the Afghan security forces attack international allies - were rare, and the motivation for the latest incident remained unclear


There have been 22 "green-on-blue" deaths - mostly Americans - so far this year, compared with 35 for the whole of 2011.

A dozen British service personnel have been killed in such attacks since 2009.

Afghan intelligence officials have told the BBC the Taliban want to create a climate of mistrust where Afghan and Nato soldiers cannot work together.

The BBC's Bilal Sarwary said a senior Afghan official in Kabul said the issue of rogue soldiers and Taliban infiltration was an even bigger threat than suicide attacks and Taliban attacks.

He said it was a Taliban "strategy, not a tactic" applied by insurgent groups across Afghanistan, which had officials worried despite their insistence that fresh security measures were in place.

Around 130,000 coalition troops are fighting alongside 350,000 Afghan security personnel against the Taliban-led insurgency.

International combat troops have begun their withdrawal and are due to pull out of Afghanistan by the end of 2014.

Key to that timetable is the training and mentoring of Afghan forces so they can take control of the security of their country themselves.

Shadow defence secretary Jim Murphy told Sky News more needs to be done to protect British troops who remain in Afghanistan.

He said: "If these killers, who carried out this attack, weren't even members of the armed forces then it raises another question which is that in 2015 - when Britain is only doing a training role in Afghanistan and our combat troops have been fully withdrawn - who's going to look after the British trainees."




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Reply #7 on: May 17, 2012, 04:40:57 pm
Maybe they should remove the guns from their police officers to it cannot happen.

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Reply #8 on: May 17, 2012, 07:16:55 pm
Maybe they should remove the guns from their police officers to it cannot happen.

A grand idea, let's take away guns from law enforcement officers in a warzone, so only the enemy has firearms. Good job.
Our troops are beginning to pull out, and they're training up local militias to carry on their duties. Making those militias unarmed would result in their quick deaths right after the coalition pulls out.



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Reply #9 on: May 17, 2012, 09:42:09 pm
Considering that there are no reasonable gun laws in Afghanistan and even a kid can, literally have an RPG it would be a bad idea to leave them unarmed for the time being.



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Reply #10 on: May 17, 2012, 11:17:26 pm
Considering that there are no reasonable gun laws in Afghanistan and even a kid can, literally have an RPG it would be a bad idea to leave them unarmed for the time being.
Wasnt really aware of that, maybe their government should try to be more like another country such as the UK when it comes to law.

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Reply #11 on: May 18, 2012, 12:02:04 am
Wasnt really aware of that, maybe their government should try to be more like another country such as the UK when it comes to law.

Oh the world would definitely be a better place if everyone had a similar goverment to western europe. But sadly, it can't be.



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Reply #12 on: May 18, 2012, 12:48:06 am
How on earth can they not have killed the Taliban after a decade of coalition forces combing Afghanistan all over?

Politicians.

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Reply #13 on: May 18, 2012, 05:17:21 am
How on earth can they not have killed the Taliban after a decade of coalition forces combing Afghanistan all over?

Politicians.

Caves, and lots of them.



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Reply #14 on: May 18, 2012, 02:00:30 pm
Caves, and lots of them.
Caves didn't help Saddam.. :razz:

This.
How on earth can they not have killed the Taliban after a decade of coalition forces combing Afghanistan all over?

Politicians.

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