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Offline Bruce.

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Keep it civilised please. No need to insult.

I believe Argonath will be back as soon as the exams are over.
SA:MP server is currently in a decent state with a stable player base of around 20-25 people on a daily basis.


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If you dont want to be civilised with other people then do not post at all cause Ill remove the post. Easy as that.
He leaking stuff from AV chat its yours(AVs in this case) and his responsibility. It is not a forum rulebreak and it wont be removed. If it is unaccaptable for you then ignore it and move on.

I believe Argonath will be back as soon as the exams are over.
SA:MP server is currently in a decent state with a stable player base of around 20-25 people on a daily basis.


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If you dont want to be civilised with other people then do not post at all cause Ill remove the post. Easy as that.
He leaking stuff from AV chat its yours(AVs in this case) and his responsibility. It is not a forum rulebreak and it wont be removed. If it is unaccaptable for you then ignore it and move on.


I think you meant to say "him leaking"



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I think you meant to say "him leaking"
Yeah whatever, you get the point.

I believe Argonath will be back as soon as the exams are over.
SA:MP server is currently in a decent state with a stable player base of around 20-25 people on a daily basis.


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:big think:

First of all, this was a private conversation between you and I in the clan skype. I don't see why you would share that without my consent. Regardless, I stand by everything I've said and I don't think anything needs further elaboration. What I don't like is how you're taking things out of context and lying.

- ''stopped by sal in reviving the clan'' + rankhunting accusation

You were given an ingame management rank by me so you could add members back and your effort was appreciated. You can't really even need anything else than that to 'revive' anything. The clan is still very much a thing. Its members are friends and we communicate in both Discord and Skype, albeit more frequently on personal chats. The last 2 years it's been more active on VC:MP. At some point you asked for a forum rank because apparently 2 people registered and didn't have their accounts activated instantly. You then got really upset and showed your true colors, to which I replied that it looked like it was more about the rank. I also explained to you why there was no practical purpose for you to have a forum rank, but I guess those logs don't matter for the context here at all. <ascended brain meme with denzel face>

- ''told that you're wasting your time playing a 2004 game''

I don't think I ever said anything about the game's age. You are wasting your time and if that's not a fact then it's my personal opinion. Anyone is free to spend their leisure time in any way, but sometimes I get fed up because you guys are real people, too. This isn't the place for a discussion about this, though.

- about brian

Again, something I stand by for many reasons that this topic isn't a discussion place for and it's really slimy that you would share something like that without my consent.

thanks for the best wishes for my fantasy, the prayers and good luck wishes

I don't know what else was posted here, possibly by Marcel, since you quoted him, but I guess I'll pitch in on what I think of all this gossiping about me and AV from the two of you.

Denzel, I think you're a good kid and I never have had anything against you. Me ranting about Argonath to you in private wasn't about Argonath, but about me wanting you to spend your leisure time in a better, more worthwhile way. It is your decision that you in the end did not follow my advice, and I respect that although like I said, it concerns me because you're a real person that I have fond memories of from the past. I didn't like when I heard that you and Marcel started talking about AV in a negative way and randomly left the /group after I gave you a management rank. Even less so how it was without notice to join a new clan that I'm sure is going to be very succesful and already has a nice topic set up. Because you left without notice I had no choice but to kick you. After this whole attempt at drama I do not think there's a place in AV left for you, either.

Marcel, I asked you if you'd left AV and you told me you didn't and just wanted to wear a different tag. This alone is not allowed, but I was fine with it, because after all, Janek also wear the Rstar tag instead. What I don't like is when multiple people come to me quoting you, saying you've left because of something about me supposedly shitting on Argonath, I think that crosses a line. First of all, where's your spine? Call me out and talk to me instead of always behind people's backs. Second, since apparently this is now a ''Salmonella is this and that and he hates Argonath!'' thing, need I remind you of all the times you talked about starting a new community because Argonath was utter shit, etc etc etc. That's something you seem to change your mind on every year and I don't judge you for it, but at least spare me the Guttmensch lecture, saying AV is 'suffering because of me'.

As far as fantasies and Argonath goes, I don't think this is the place for me to say anything and I think I've summed it up in the leaked logs, but my stance on it isn't a bitter and negative one, I just believe it's a nostalgic place with no real future other than that. I think anyone who believes there's an amazing bright future is someone indulging in fantasies. I respect their opinion nonetheless and I think mine should be respected, too.







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I have nothing against Argonath Veterans as I've mentioned on my previous reply, also here's the last thing I would like to advice you Sal. be it VC:MP, IV:MP, or SA:MP, you should be doing your very best to keep the clan alive, but based on your activity on SA:MP as you're the only "active" leader, if you think you've got too much to handle as you're managing VC:MP side too, then you should really ask for help from some active AV members from SA:MP. It might not be now but I wish to see Argonath Veterans grow once again on SA:MP in the future.  :app: :app: :rofl:

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Also, I figured I'd check:



You literally deleted all your messages, yet you share mine? How slimy and spineless is that? At least stand by what you said.

I don't play on any server actively, lol. AV isn't strictly an Argonath thing, as Janek nicely put it:

[24-11-2017 11:57:33] Jan: SAMP never is or was the clan.
[24-11-2017 11:59:05] Jan: The people who need rights there, have them already - we're all easily contactable and active in places. Just not necessarily there.
[24-11-2017 16:43:20] Jan: It's always been about hanging out and having fun. Not necessarily exclusively in SAMP, but outside of them on TeamSpeak and whatever else we used to do. It's family, not just a gaming club.

I think you're pretty clueless about how AV has been led and is being led and I think it's delusional to think it's some sort of daytime job you make it out to be. Stuff is going just fine. First you were given ingame rights, now Mobius is. Nothing has the potential to grow when there's no healthy soil left. This whole thing is about nostalgia.



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Yeah whatever, you get the point.


I really don't, privacy should be enforced by staff lol



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I really don't, privacy should be enforced by staff lol
Why? We have no way to confirm the logs are real. We don't act based on assumptions and hear-say. We need legit evidence to make an informed decision, and skype or discord chatlogs from a clan's chat is not that. Leaking "sensitive" information is the clan's problems, not forum moderators.

We'll only intervene when the leaked stuff will go against the community's or the forum's rules.


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Why? We have no way to confirm the logs are real.


Newsflash, you do. And if you cared enough to do your "job" you'd find they're as real as Brian's bra pictures.  :jackson:




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So anyway, now we've all agreed that we all don't have the same opinion...  :cowboy:
See you ingame or wherever  :lol:


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Newsflash, you do. And if you cared enough to do your "job" you'd find they're as real as Brian's bra pictures.  :jackson:
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I don't even have words to describe the amount of stupidity in this post.


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I don't even have words to describe the amount of stupidity in this post.


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