Teenage Atheist Union

[Pandalink]

Atheism isn't a group related belief. It's not a belief at all, actually. It's not believing in a deity. There is no such things as ''the atheists'' or the united atheist alliance. Atheism is not against any deity, it's just a choice people make to NOT believe in one. Making atheist groups is just missing the point.

I'd go with this.
Atheism is the default. Anything else is mere indoctrination after the fact.

[Gandalf]

Atheism isn't a group related belief. It's not a belief at all, actually. It's not believing in a deity. There is no such things as ''the atheists'' or the united atheist alliance. Atheism is not against any deity, it's just a choice people make to NOT believe in one. Making atheist groups is just missing the point.

When atheists start to try convincing believers, they often act very similar.
Als atheists hold no more proof than those who believe.

[Radagast]

I'll join, but only because 9GAG is getting a bit old nowadays. Also I'll be there to correct you on little things (like the fact that Benedict's ferula isn't gold).

[Clone]

Atheism isn't a group related belief. It's not a belief at all, actually. It's not believing in a deity. There is no such things as ''the atheists'' or the united atheist alliance. Atheism is not against any deity, it's just a choice people make to NOT believe in one. Making atheist groups is just missing the point.

So religions can make churches and events, but atheists can't even make a facebook page? You're missing the point.

I'll join, but only because 9GAG is getting a bit old nowadays. Also I'll be there to correct you on little things (like the fact that Benedict's ferula isn't gold).

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[Dutchy]

When atheists start to try convincing believers, they often act very similar.
Als atheists hold no more proof than those who believe.

Atheism shouldn't be about convincing believers not to believe, it should be about not believing in common.

So religions can make churches and events, but atheists can't even make a facebook page? You're missing the point.

I'm not saying it wrong to make a facebook page. I'm saying it's missing the point to define atheists as a social group, as it isn't a group of people who share the same thoughts, it's just something... That isn't. It's like ''hey John, I don't believe in a deity!'' ''wow hank, I don't either, let's not believe in a deity together!'' It's obvious that you can make a facebook page, make jokes about religions and saints, nothing wrong with that, freedom of speech, be my guest. Just try to remember what you represent as an atheist... Absolutely nothing.

[Jubin]

You know being atheist seems like being a carnivore, both really don't need a support group.

[Clone]

You know being atheist seems like being a carnivore, both really don't need a support group.

You'd be surprised how some atheists are treated around the world.

[Aksel]

God is not bad. Kids in africa were probeably criminals

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[Pandalink]

Als atheists hold no more proof than those who believe.

Of the existence or non-existence of a deity, no. However, as I mentioned before the "default" behaviour is atheism, in that a baby is born with no religious belief.
In addition, the burden of proof lies with the person making the claim, the same way as in law. Russell's teapot is again an excellent analogy.

[Oliver]

"HURR HURR U BELIEV IN MAN WIT BEARD IN SKY XDDDDDD LOL FAIRY TALES XOXOXOXOXOXO" <- Atheists.

Religion is a vital part of our society as much of our today's moral norms stem from our various religions. Countries with a christian background have a lot in common with each other, as have countries with a Muslim background. You might not be religious, but you still conform with the ideals of multiple religions all across the world (most of those ideals of course being "don't be a dick" or anything of the like, but celebrating Christmas and not working on a Sunday come from Christianity).
Belonging to the same religion gives people a sense of unity, a really good example being the Crusades, where many people from different nationalities joined as one to fight a common enemy, the Muslims in Asia and the pagans in the Baltics. Had there been no religion keeping the people together, Europe would've definitely entered a period of devastating wars, eventually allowing the Muslims to simply march in and take over with little to no resistance. Just look at what happened in the Thirty Years' War.

Since the majority of the players here are from European countries, we all celebrate the same holidays, most if not all of which stem from Christianity, such as Easter or Christmas.


Before Christianity was introduced in Rome, it was normal to be "lewd" and "immoral", as that was the norm back then. They had a god for everything, from virility to abstinence. A lot of Romans were extremely superstitious and it affected a lot of what they did, including giving them an Empire.

Religion isn't about the bloody belief in a divine entity who created the world in 6 days and rested on the seventh, it's about guiding people along their path, but the minority who takes it literally is sadly the loudest, and as such make every single religious person look bad. Stories and set scenarios help people visualize things better and it helps them to "get the point" better than an atheist crying "US COMON SENZE!!"

a baby is born with no religious belief.

Nor is it born with an ability to speak or think coherent thoughts. Every human being is retarded by default according to your logic.

[JDC]

Of the existence or non-existence of a deity, no. However, as I mentioned before the "default" behaviour is atheism, in that a baby is born with no religious belief.
In addition, the burden of proof lies with the person making the claim, the same way as in law. Russell's teapot is again an excellent analogy.

Which is why I chose Agnosticism.

[Gandalf]

"HURR HURR U BELIEV IN MAN WIT BEARD IN SKY XDDDDDD LOL FAIRY TALES XOXOXOXOXOXO" <- Atheists.

Religion is a vital part of our society as much of our today's moral norms stem from our various religions. Countries with a christian background have a lot in common with each other, as have countries with a Muslim background. You might not be religious, but you still conform with the ideals of multiple religions all across the world (most of those ideals of course being "don't be a dick" or anything of the like, but celebrating Christmas and not working on a Sunday come from Christianity).
Belonging to the same religion gives people a sense of unity, a really good example being the Crusades, where many people from different nationalities joined as one to fight a common enemy, the Muslims in Asia and the pagans in the Baltics. Had there been no religion keeping the people together, Europe would've definitely entered a period of devastating wars, eventually allowing the Muslims to simply march in and take over with little to no resistance. Just look at what happened in the Thirty Years' War.

Since the majority of the players here are from European countries, we all celebrate the same holidays, most if not all of which stem from Christianity, such as Easter or Christmas.


Before Christianity was introduced in Rome, it was normal to be "lewd" and "immoral", as that was the norm back then. They had a god for everything, from virility to abstinence. A lot of Romans were extremely superstitious and it affected a lot of what they did, including giving them an Empire.

Religion isn't about the bloody belief in a divine entity who created the world in 6 days and rested on the seventh, it's about guiding people along their path, but the minority who takes it literally is sadly the loudest, and as such make every single religious person look bad. Stories and set scenarios help people visualize things better and it helps them to "get the point" better than an atheist crying "US COMON SENZE!!"

Nor is it born with an ability to speak or think coherent thoughts. Every human being is retarded by default according to your logic.

Democracy came from the Romans and Greeks before Christianity.
Our law system is a mix of the codex Hammurabi and Roman law, nothing to do with modern religion.
Superstition is as prevalent in Christianity and Islam as it was in Roman religion, and conduct is not much better either.

[Mikal]

I'll join, but only because 9GAG is getting a bit old nowadays. Also I'll be there to correct you on little things (like the fact that Benedict's ferula isn't gold).

Sauronism!

[Pandalink]

Which is why I chose Agnosticism.

But are you an agnostic theist or an agnostic atheist?

[Dutchy]

What does not believing in a god and denying our current modern civilisation have in common? Sure all life around us is baed on Christianity, The Islam, Hebrewism but that doesn't mean you HAVE to pick one of them. Atheists just pick none.
Post Merge: June 10, 2012, 07:54:37 am

Nor is it born with an ability to speak or think coherent thoughts. Every human being is retarded by default according to your logic.

That's because babies are empty. They are empty because they are to be culturally, socially and psychologically influenced by their surroundings. If their surrounding is to be a pack of wolves, treating the child as one of their own, it is influenced to behave like a wolf. If a baby is born in an Islamic home, with all sides of the family believing in the same deity, that child will grow up islamic.
Now if a child was to be born in a dark room, with no influence at all. Light, feeding, contact, etc. It would be an atheist. Not because it chooses to reject the surrounding around him, but simply doesn't believe in a deity. So yes, every child that is born, is retarded.