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Reply #240 on: September 27, 2012, 07:56:57 pm
Why would that contradict ?

Doesn't christian religion deny the fact that species other than humans don't go to heaven and societies can't build without christianity?


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Reply #241 on: September 27, 2012, 08:08:28 pm
Doesn't christian religion deny the fact that species other than humans don't go to heaven and societies can't build without christianity?
So what exactly is the problem ?

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Reply #242 on: September 27, 2012, 09:14:36 pm
So what exactly is the problem ?

Not a problem, it just seems that being a christian AND believing in intelligent life on other planets collide a bit.


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Reply #243 on: September 27, 2012, 09:16:22 pm
Not a problem, it just seems that being a christian AND believing in intelligent life on other planets collide a bit.
What if the aliens are human and Christians ?

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Reply #244 on: September 27, 2012, 09:21:01 pm
What if the aliens are human and Christians ?

That's something that cannot be proven or be discovered, as it could be anything.


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Reply #245 on: September 27, 2012, 09:30:45 pm
That's something that cannot be proven or be discovered, as it could be anything.
which means that just the existence of aliens does not have to exclude belief in God.  ;)

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Reply #246 on: September 27, 2012, 09:50:47 pm
That's something that cannot be proven or be discovered, as it could be anything.

Aren't you describing Scientology?


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Reply #247 on: September 27, 2012, 10:16:48 pm
Aren't you describing Scientology?
No. This has nothing to do with that.
Alexander believes in God, yet is discovering various mysteries of old times. Some are real, some are just fantasies from people who create far-fetched theories based on very little evidence.
The question is, can this co-exist ? The answer is simple, if God exists, one may assume that he did not rest after the 7th day and has since been continuing making creations, or that his existence is in such a way that it does not go against a high number of possible civilizations.
There for the existence of God does not disrupt a universe full of life.

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Reply #248 on: September 28, 2012, 02:03:14 am
Well, in Islam it said that Humans are the second race while the Jinns are the first, the one what you would call "Aliens".



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Reply #249 on: September 28, 2012, 01:47:21 pm
They are not souls...

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but then they didn't follow him and so he created us humans.

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Reply #250 on: September 28, 2012, 02:27:41 pm
Well, in Islam it said that Humans are the second race while the Jinns are the first, the one what you would call "Aliens".

Well, in Islam it said that Humans are the second race while the Jinns are the first, the one what you would call "Aliens".

Wrong on both counts. The Jinn or the Djinn were created earlier than man, but they are a seperate society given the possibility of choosing between worshipping God or not, not much different from men. Apart from the fact that they're powerful, in greater numbers than man, and do not co-exist or show themselves. According to tradition, Hazrat Suleman (Solomon) had great power over them and used their services to build his great empire.



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Reply #251 on: September 28, 2012, 03:18:25 pm
Wrong on both counts. The Jinn or the Djinn were created earlier than man, but they are a seperate society given the possibility of choosing between worshipping God or not, not much different from men. Apart from the fact that they're powerful, in greater numbers than man, and do not co-exist or show themselves. According to tradition, Hazrat Suleman (Solomon) had great power over them and used their services to build his great empire.
So if I understand right, if humans decide to stop worshipping, God will just make a new, weaker, race to get his daily dose of worshipping ?

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Reply #252 on: September 28, 2012, 03:28:18 pm
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Wrong on both counts. The Jinn or the Djinn were created earlier than man, but they are a seperate society given the possibility of choosing between worshipping God or not, not much different from men. Apart from the fact that they're powerful, in greater numbers than man, and do not co-exist or show themselves. According to tradition, Hazrat Suleman (Solomon) had great power over them and used their services to build his great empire.

Read again... I said the humans are the second race while Jinns are the first. Also, you can't wrong me on having the possibility of Jinns being the aliens because they are, considering if you are Muslim.

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So if I understand right, if humans decide to stop worshipping, God will just make a new, weaker, race to get his daily dose of worshipping ?

Don't bring out his errors but rather educate him.



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Reply #253 on: September 28, 2012, 03:45:08 pm
Read again... I said the humans are the second race while Jinns are the first. Also, you can't wrong me on having the possibility of Jinns being the aliens because they are, considering if you are Muslim.

Don't bring out his errors but rather educate him.
God makes errors ?  :wow:

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Reply #254 on: September 28, 2012, 03:52:08 pm
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God makes errors ?

My post is a response to your statement that is directed towards omarlay's comment. WHAT GOING ON WITH THIS THREAD!



 


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