Community Suggestions For SA:MP SAFD

[SugarD]

Krueger, if you continue to post-hunt to troll, you will be facing moderation. Stop it.

@The Fire Mission time-split decrease idea: If the Fire Missions weren't so easily abused, I would agree...but the problem is that this hinders roleplay situations by promoting scripted ones more, and it would heavily increase the abuse people do with it for cash. As for multiple Fire Missions happening at once, I do like that idea, not counting the abuse problems with the Fire Missions right now.

@The different types of Missions ideas: I have been proposing this for a very long time now too. I can't comment on what SA:MP RS5 may or may not hold right now, but I will confirm that some, if not all, of these ideas have been considered for LU RS1 for similar reasons.

@MrAnthrax: Thank you!
As for your comment about TeamSpeak, I would love for us to find a way to get the "radio channels" working better together, but as of right now we are stuck with separated channels, and users possibly having whisper lists.

@The Station RP ideas: I've been trying to do this long before the FD got any scripts at all. The problem is most users just ignore the roleplays, even when we try to get the public involved via /ad advertisements. I would love to increase the roleplays in the Station more still, though...and I will!


Thank you to everyone who has posted so far voicing your opinions and giving your ideas. I really do appreciate everyone's cooperation in discussing things so we can improve the roleplay for all.

[~Legend~]

Sounds good.

I remember how some people get annoyed of those on duty who use the ARFD vehicles when there's no mission going on.
I think it's important to remember that the job isn't limited just to missions, and of course so long as someone's not trying to disrupt people/misusing the equipment, but trying to roleplay a little more with the firefighter role (than just waiting around for a scripted mission), it shouldn't be a prob?

[SugarD]

Sounds good.

I remember how some people get annoyed of those on duty who use the ARFD vehicles when there's no mission going on.
I think it's important to remember that the job isn't limited just to missions, and of course so long as someone's not trying to disrupt people/misusing the equipment, but trying to roleplay a little more with the firefighter role (than just waiting around for a scripted mission), it shouldn't be a prob?

It shouldn't be, but thanks to many who like to abuse the scripts, it is. Thankfully SA:MP RS5 has already prevented such stupidity with it's new Mission designs. Assuming the reset happens for the new scripts, everyone abusing their abilities in the Missions now will be no farther than they were before they even started.

[Joey_Barker]

I posted an idea recently about not wearng turnout gear in the station as if you were a real fireman.

[SugarD]

I posted an idea recently about not wearng turnout gear in the station as if you were a real fireman.

I saw that and I've responded. Thank you for posting ideas!

[Jcstodds]

  As it was already said, would love to see more integration with cops and such scenarious. That said, 1 guy in a fireman is going to just get in the way more than help a large situation.
 
  Way to get around this: More patrolling with partners to make more RP, rather than more vehicles clogging up areas.


  My own personal experience with all firemen I have come across: They turn up at fire, put fire out without saying a word. Ignore any type of communication and all drive away afterwards. Could do fire investigations, cordon off areas, involve people in cleanup, maybe even give cops some work to do and say it was arson or something.
  When there is not a firemission, training scenarios could be given and advertised to the public. Safety talks, meetings with EMS, cops, pointing out danger areas etc. I don't know much about fireman to be honest, but whatever you do, the bigger group you do it with the more fun you will have. Even if it is just going to lunch at pizza stack.
  Get organised and try to get everyone together.

  You may already do all this, I have had little interaction with firemen (very few, and they were all as I described above) but good to see you looking for ideas.

[SugarD]

  As it was already said, would love to see more integration with cops and such scenarious. That said, 1 guy in a fireman is going to just get in the way more than help a large situation.
 
  Way to get around this: More patrolling with partners to make more RP, rather than more vehicles clogging up areas.


  My own personal experience with all firemen I have come across: They turn up at fire, put fire out without saying a word. Ignore any type of communication and all drive away afterwards. Could do fire investigations, cordon off areas, involve people in cleanup, maybe even give cops some work to do and say it was arson or something.
  When there is not a firemission, training scenarios could be given and advertised to the public. Safety talks, meetings with EMS, cops, pointing out danger areas etc. I don't know much about fireman to be honest, but whatever you do, the bigger group you do it with the more fun you will have. Even if it is just going to lunch at pizza stack.
  Get organised and try to get everyone together.

  You may already do all this, I have had little interaction with firemen (very few, and they were all as I described above) but good to see you looking for ideas.

Thanks for the response Jcstodds! It was well written!

As for your experiences, from the sounds of it, that is more than likely the Volunteers we are having trouble with. Hopefully that can be remedied in SA:MP RS5, but your RP ideas are also a wonderful start. I have tried some of them already, but I will no doubt continue doing them, as well as give your other ones a try!

The response is much appreciated, and I want to thank you again for taking your time to explain your experiences and provide helpful ideas. Most people don't usually put that much effort into it, so believe me...they are more than welcome.

[Nathan]

I went on fireman duty in the last couple of days and here is a few things I noticed and possibly would like to change:
-Some firemen just car jack others because they want to do the job of spraying
-Some firemen abuse their equipment on others to get them away from a fire, as in spraying them because they were there first

Basically, I wish there was more "control" over these types of people, as in banning them from missions or removing their equipment. It'd really make things much smoother. Other than that, fireman missions are a blast when everything is done right.

[SugarD]

I went on fireman duty in the last couple of days and here is a few things I noticed and possibly would like to change:
-Some firemen just car jack others because they want to do the job of spraying
-Some firemen abuse their equipment on others to get them away from a fire, as in spraying them because they were there first

Basically, I wish there was more "control" over these types of people, as in banning them from missions or removing their equipment. It'd really make things much smoother. Other than that, fireman missions are a blast when everything is done right.

I am very glad you brought up these issues, because this is something that has been bothering me for a long time.

There are a couple things I want to ask everyone in SA:MP to do for me:
1. If you see these things happen, please, please, please report them to admins and take screenshots for evidence/proof.
2. If admins aren't available, or clearly do nothing to handle the situation, please report the incidents on ARFD Forums.

The first method will ensure that the server's rules and procedures regarding the abuse are handled, however the second method, if the first is unsuccessful, will provide evidence that I can show to the server's Managers or higher to deal with the situation and players directly. I am just as sick of the abuse as you guys are, and I'm asking for your help in eliminating it.

As for those players who do this because they don't know how the system works, if you guys are on Fire Duty, please don't hesitate to help them out and show them how to roleplay the job. As it stands, SA:MP SAFD doesn't have too many trained members, (due to various reasons that make people not want to join), and so it is very difficult to get all the players correctly trained and helped out because very few are available to do it. Even if you aren't completely sure on the roleplay yourself, try out the basics that you do understand. Encourage players to share vehicles...start imaginary fire roleplays...RP at Fire Missions...roleplay in the Station...go to Medical calls...etc.

All of this will greatly help the situation.

As for everyone's responses, it is immensely appreciated that all of you are participating here still. I cannot stress this enough. You guys are awesome for getting involved because I truly do wish to make this group for the players so everyone can have fun with it...not just a select few.

[benasack2000]

for SAFD command /ffban and /medicban also /ffrank and /medicrank


I really don't want to hear it from the people who aren't EVER in medic or FD duty and are gonna give a stupid comment like "theres never a reason to ban a firefighter or paramedic"



Also,

Enforcer - Rescue Squad

Ambulances at fire stations

[Mikal]

  As it was already said, would love to see more integration with cops and such scenarious. That said, 1 guy in a fireman is going to just get in the way more than help a large situation.
 
  Way to get around this: More patrolling with partners to make more RP, rather than more vehicles clogging up areas.


  My own personal experience with all firemen I have come across: They turn up at fire, put fire out without saying a word. Ignore any type of communication and all drive away afterwards. Could do fire investigations, cordon off areas, involve people in cleanup, maybe even give cops some work to do and say it was arson or something.
  When there is not a firemission, training scenarios could be given and advertised to the public. Safety talks, meetings with EMS, cops, pointing out danger areas etc. I don't know much about fireman to be honest, but whatever you do, the bigger group you do it with the more fun you will have. Even if it is just going to lunch at pizza stack.
  Get organised and try to get everyone together.

  You may already do all this, I have had little interaction with firemen (very few, and they were all as I described above) but good to see you looking for ideas.

Sounds like Jcs should be fire chief.

for SAFD command /ffban and /medicban also /ffrank and /medicrank

No.

[benasack2000]

Why Mikal? PD has it so should we

 

[SugarD]

for SAFD command /ffban and /medicban also /ffrank and /medicrank


I really don't want to hear it from the people who aren't EVER in medic or FD duty and are gonna give a stupid comment like "theres never a reason to ban a firefighter or paramedic"



Also,

Enforcer - Rescue Squad

Ambulances at fire stations

This topic is about suggestions to improve the FD itself. Scripted ideas should still be presented in their appropriate locations.

No.

Please give your reasons behind your opinion, or refrain from posting here. This is a suggestions topic. Not a place for the excuse to troll the group further.

[Petarda]

Well since everyone is carjacking each other and everyone is fighting for engine you should give them equal money after mission,someone who has extinguished 10 fires will get same ammount of money as someone who maintained 10 fires.

[Mr_B3n]

I agree with firemen should be arriving at particular police scenes could be used as a team to "break open doors (rply)". However general RP's or even fire hydrant checks across the streets...


SAFD has plenty of avenues that can be researched into, that could give more soul and insight to the actual abilities and skills of your organisation. Argonath Defense Force should be able to find particular RP's we could assist ARFD with. We all have our aims and skills that we aim towards, all that needs to be done is inter-group communications to organise such operations.