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Russia/Poland Football clashes

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Reply #15 on: June 14, 2012, 07:47:47 pm
That's an utterly ridiculous statement. There are hooligans in every single f**king country. What about the riots in Canada after a hockey game?
Canada proved to be completely barbaric and unable to host hockey matches. The right to host those matches should be taken away from Canada and given to a country that has the ability to maintain order.







Look at all those ape-like Canadians. They show absolutely no signs of being civilized.
That means that all Canadians are like that, if I apply your logic to it.

There's a difference between rioting because of the loss of a game, and assaulting non-violent people simply because of their nationality. What happened in Canada was not a case of people discriminating and hating on other people, it was what happens when thousands of people get drunk and lose a hockey game.



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Reply #16 on: June 15, 2012, 02:39:58 am
There's a difference between rioting because of the loss of a game, and assaulting non-violent people simply because of their nationality. What happened in Canada was not a case of people discriminating and hating on other people, it was what happens when thousands of people get drunk and lose a hockey game.

The idea is the same, and people still cause disorder. And which one of them caused more damage?



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Reply #17 on: June 15, 2012, 02:41:41 am
The idea is the same, and people still cause disorder. And which one of them caused more damage?

They are completely different. One is a hate crime, the other is drunk in public.



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Reply #18 on: June 15, 2012, 02:44:00 am
They are completely different. One is a hate crime, the other is drunk in public.

One is beating up people because you have a history of hating them, the other is burning cars and looting, which causes a lot more material damage.

I mean come on, you're a Russian in Poland are aren't expecting anything to happen to you?



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Reply #19 on: June 15, 2012, 02:49:12 am
The inability to bark at Russia in the difference-making fields... :cop:

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Reply #20 on: June 15, 2012, 03:46:10 am
Dear god Moose, whats the difference if someone attack youout of hate or because he was drunk??
They were drunk, you are ridiculous...
You need to know some facts before you start commenting everything that got something to do with east Europe.
Most of us here know very little about the Russian-Polish relations throughout history.Poles are full of anger because they were under Soviet boot for decades, following the Second World War, but even long before communism in time of Imperial Russia they fought, the Polish-Lithuanian Union. Both have their scars, spears were broken even around the present day Ukraine, Belarus, Lithuania ... The influence of the Catholic church has left a mark in orthodox Ukraine. Basically me as a Serb Russians are closer in every way, but I respect the Poles, primarily because of the support they provided regarding Kosovo.
Russians were parading to the stadium,since it was national day of Russia,they wanted to celebrate , and locals attacked:
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Reply #21 on: June 15, 2012, 03:51:08 am
One is beating up people because you have a history of hating them, the other is burning cars and looting, which causes a lot more material damage.

I mean come on, you're a Russian in Poland are aren't expecting anything to happen to you?

One is being drunk, the other is a Hate Crime. A drunk person can not make correct judgement so he gets in to fights and does stupid things, these people know exactly what they are doing is wrong and do it anyway. At least the drunks have an excuse....



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Reply #22 on: June 15, 2012, 03:56:02 am
One is being drunk, the other is a Hate Crime. A drunk person can not make correct judgement so he gets in to fights and does stupid things, these people know exactly what they are doing is wrong and do it anyway. At least the drunks have an excuse....
Being drunk is not an excuse, for anything, ever.


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Reply #23 on: June 15, 2012, 05:38:51 am
Being drunk is not an excuse, for anything, ever.

Well unluckily for you thats how the legal system works



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Reply #24 on: June 15, 2012, 06:01:52 am
Yeaaa well the legal system wont help you much after someone takes a crap in you're life,whats done its done,you can't take that back, and I do not believe that his punishment will satisfy you,ever.

Doesn't matter if he was drunk,drugged,strait..crime is a crime,and those people in Canada you are trying defend so hard are not better then the one down here in Poland and Ukraine.



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Reply #25 on: June 15, 2012, 06:11:55 am
Yeaaa well the legal system wont help you much after someone takes a crap in you're life,whats done its done,you can't take that back, and I do not believe that his punishment will satisfy you,ever.

Doesn't matter if he was drunk,drugged,strait..crime is a crime,and those people in Canada you are trying defend so hard are not better then the one down here in Poland and Ukraine.

If your drunk or drugged charges can be dropped and is not considered a crime, at least here. being drunk is 50/50 but drugs are usually always given hospital treatment not charges. Frankly, If I had to riot over a sport it would be hockey not grass fairy soccer  :lol:



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Reply #26 on: June 15, 2012, 02:37:24 pm
They are completely different. One is a hate crime, the other is drunk in public.
Do yu really belive those fans were sober ? Ever met a Russian or Polish fan ?  :rofl:

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Reply #27 on: June 15, 2012, 04:12:15 pm
Do yu really belive those fans were sober ? Ever met a Russian or Polish fan ?  :rofl:

I always thought the Russians and Polish lived of alcohol so they should be desensitized to it  :lol:



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Reply #28 on: June 17, 2012, 08:29:49 pm
If your drunk or drugged charges can be dropped and is not considered a crime, at least here. being drunk is 50/50 but drugs are usually always given hospital treatment not charges. Frankly, If I had to riot over a sport it would be hockey not grass fairy soccer  :lol:

Let me guess, those "charges that can be dropped" are mostly public indecencies and such? I doubt they'll drop the charges because you were driving drunk or beating random people up.
And you're just pissy because Canada doesn't have a proper football team.

I always thought the Russians and Polish lived of alcohol so they should be desensitized to it  :lol:

The difference between them and westerners is that instead of pints of lager they have pints of vodka while watching football games,
so they still get tipsy.



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Reply #29 on: June 17, 2012, 09:17:08 pm
Let me guess, those "charges that can be dropped" are mostly public indecencies and such? I doubt they'll drop the charges because you were driving drunk or beating random people up.
And you're just pissy because Canada doesn't have a proper football team.

Hockey > Soccer



 


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