ARPD Command Mix up ?

[Davron]

Today, [WS]Shadow brought to my attention that ARPD have the officers ranked as:

Anyone that becomes a cop is considered as ARPD Officer,

Anyone applied and become a cadet + ARPD Officers are consider as VCPD.

I found this utterly foolish for many reasons..

If a "free cop" is corrupt they have the title of ARPD and if civilians report him to higher ranked personnel, the ARPD name can be affected and they wont be properly punished. 

[SugarD]

Today, [WS]Shadow brought to my attention that ARPD have the officers ranked as:

Anyone that becomes a cop is considered as ARPD Officer,

Anyone applied and become a cadet + ARPD Officers are consider as VCPD.

I found this utterly foolish for many reasons..

If a "free cop" is corrupt they have the title of ARPD and if civilians report him to higher ranked personnel, the ARPD name can be affected and they wont be properly punished. 

ARPD Officers are part of ARPD for a reason. It has always been like this in ALL of Argo.

[Kessu]

ARPD Officers are part of ARPD for a reason. It has always been like this in ALL of Argo.

What Neal is saying, is that any cop is ranked as ARPD Officer now. When a reqular uses /c rank ArchAngelTyrael (I just had to) he'll see that the cop is ARPD officer and then report it to ARPD, who really can't do anything (unless Legend picks up admin duty at the same time)  :razz:

Every cop (the players that just registered) should not be ranked as ARPD officers, but VCPD officers (I think).

[~Legend~]

Thought I'd reply to clear this one up -

ARPD across Argonath is the general term for all police units, no matter of position/affiliations.
Within the ARPD comes the official police forces, including the VCPD, SAPD, LCPD etc...

As is the same with the fire department, the ARFD, which also has its respective FDVC and so on.

[SugarD]

Thought I'd reply to clear this one up -

ARPD across Argonath is the general term for all police units, no matter of position/affiliations.
Within the ARPD comes the official police forces, including the VCPD, SAPD, LCPD etc...

As is the same with the fire department, the ARFD, which also has its respective FDVC and so on.

Exactly.

What Neal is saying, is that any cop is ranked as ARPD Officer now.

If there is an issue with /rank, then that is a script issue, and not an ARPD one. Anyone on police duty is considered as part of ARPD. If they are in an official police group also, such as VC:MP VCPD, then they can be a VCPD Cadet or above, but they are still also part of ARPD, as it is the entire grouping of all Law Enforcement in the community, as Legend said. If a VCPD Cadet or above simply shows up as "ARPD Officer" when ranking them in the scripts, then someone caused a script or database issue, or assigned the wrong rank to someone. If he is saying that ARPD Officers should never exist, and that "Freecops" should be VCPD Officers, that wouldn't be correct as they are not officially in VCPD, just ARPD. That is why they have the freedom in this community to go on police duty without having to join an official Law Enforcement group first.

[Pandalink]

ARPD Officers are part of ARPD for a reason. It has always been like this in ALL of Argo.

Not quite. Freecops were added to the ARPD less than 2-3 years ago, hence the confusion with old players (people used to "join the ARPD").

[SugarD]

Not quite. Freecops were added to the ARPD less than 2-3 years ago, hence the confusion with old players (people used to "join the ARPD").

They weren't actually added. They had always existed...just not by name. What happened was originally MTA:VC VCPD was the only PD, and thus the community called it ARPD. When SA:MP joined the scene, they had to adjust things to what was mentioned above due to multiple Departments now existing under the umbrella that is ARPD.

[Kessu]

Oh, sorry then, it's my mistake  :razz:

I always thought VCPD was the whole shizzle and ARPD was a part of it, exactly for the reason that you need to "join/apply" for ARPD.

[PulseEffect]

Eh finally you get the point.
If everyone who went cop was a VCPD Officer we'd get so many ****ing reports about Dmers/Abuse of /c sus, etc.
That's why we call them ARPD Officers. This is also why the VCMP Argonath email is probably full of reports of abusive ARPD Officers... (Not saying all are)

[[Rstar]Paul]

I can create a board to report ARPD Officers under VCPD's section.. Equivalent to SAPD's one.

[PulseEffect]

I can create a board to report ARPD Officers under VCPD's section.. Equivalent to SAPD's one.

Leggy we have an idea here!

[SugarD]

I can create a board to report ARPD Officers under VCPD's section.. Equivalent to SAPD's one.

Paul, the problem is that only SA:MP SAPD has been granted the rights to deal with such users. The other servers have been left in the dark to basically figure it out for themselves.

[[Rstar]Paul]

Paul, the problem is that only SA:MP SAPD has been granted the rights to deal with such users. The other servers have been left in the dark to basically figure it out for themselves.

In what areas do you mean by "granted" ?

[SugarD]

In what areas do you mean by "granted" ?

Gandalf, a couple years ago, gave SA:MP SAPD the permission and scripted ability to deal with corrupt ARPD Officers that were not in SA:MP SAPD. Only SA:MP SAPD has this ability. No other official PD in ARPD has the ability to handle corruption caused by ARPD Officers.

[stormeus]

In what areas do you mean by "granted" ?

He means that the VC:MP VCPD is unable to copban and, by itself, has no jurisdiction over ARPD officers whatsoever due to script limitations.