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Tests hint at possible Arafat poisoning

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Reply #15 on: July 06, 2012, 04:06:31 pm
I'm simply being realistic in regards to Human Nature, weather or not things SHOULD be like this is irrelevant since this is the way things ARE and will always be. When someone loses a war, they admit defeat, doing so does not make them cowards, it shows there is honour in war. But when a country starts making trouble even after they are defeaten, it is their own fault for the violence THEY cause themselves, if the completely surrender to Israel there will be less conflict, but they choose to rebel against their controllers and thus bring violence upon themselves.

So you are simply trying to say that if foreign settlers came from all around the world, supplied with the most powerful weapons, forced my people to leave their own land and took it over, is fine?

How could a human brain even imagine that?
We might lost the battle, because we are powerless, but we didn't and will never lose the war.

From which universe did they come to kick me outta my own land and I just say OK? There's no such universe.


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Reply #16 on: July 06, 2012, 04:13:30 pm
So you are simply trying to say that if foreign settlers came from all around the world, supplied with the most powerful weapons, forced my people to leave their own land and took it over, is fine?

How could a human brain even imagine that?
We might lost the battle, because we are powerless, but we didn't and will never lose the war.

From which universe did they come to kick me outta my own land and I just say OK? There's no such universe.

But they were there before you, in fact they were the first to be there.



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Reply #17 on: July 06, 2012, 04:25:46 pm
But they were there before you, in fact they were the first to be there.

That's incorrect and evidence-less. And I am no way going to discuss who was there first because it's nothing different than discussing who came first, egg or chicken.


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Reply #18 on: July 06, 2012, 04:55:04 pm
egg or chicken.

Neither, evolution baby.



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Reply #19 on: July 06, 2012, 06:23:10 pm
So you are simply trying to say that if foreign settlers came from all around the world, supplied with the most powerful weapons, forced my people to leave their own land and took it over, is fine?

How could a human brain even imagine that?
We might lost the battle, because we are powerless, but we didn't and will never lose the war.

From which universe did they come to kick me outta my own land and I just say OK? There's no such universe.

So your trying to say that its wrong of them to be violent, and to stop them being violent against you, you will be violent against them? Seems like every other conflict in the middle east that never ends and seems very hypocritical. What universe am I from? This one, the one where people are violent and war has happened for centuries, there has been winners and losers, and when it comes to the middle east, non of you know when to stop, not even Israel, but at least Israel does it with some honour.

Pictures like this I see everyday in the press and online. Sure, most of its probably exaggerated like the rest of the news, but its still gonna leave an impression on my opinions of the middle east and your small piece of land you claim to be a country.




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Reply #20 on: July 06, 2012, 07:01:28 pm
So your trying to say that its wrong of them to be violent, and to stop them being violent against you, you will be violent against them? Seems like every other conflict in the middle east that never ends and seems very hypocritical. What universe am I from? This one, the one where people are violent and war has happened for centuries, there has been winners and losers, and when it comes to the middle east, non of you know when to stop, not even Israel, but at least Israel does it with some honour.

Pictures like this I see everyday in the press and online. Sure, most of its probably exaggerated like the rest of the news, but its still gonna leave an impression on my opinions of the middle east and your small piece of land you claim to be a country.

If you are really talking from an opened mind, you would easily realize Israel's disinformation-mass-media around the world.
Israel has tried hard along the last decades to show that it is the victim, and we are the killers.


Mohammed Durra and his father, killed by IDF in 2nd Intifada while he's in the bosom of his dad.
Few hours later, a jewish hat was added to these pictures and Israel worked hard to claim to the west that these people in the picture are Israeli and was murdered by Palestinians.


Take a look at some Israeli war crimes against my people (Only if you have a strong heart):
http://rtsf.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/israeli-war-crimes.jpg
http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/c0.0.403.403/p403x403/538429_269547386485658_1231078449_n.jpg
http://www.ennaharonline.com/en/thumbnail.php?file=Victim_of_zionism_764420899.jpg&size=article_medium
http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/israel-war-crimes-in-gaza.jpg
http://www.defraudingamerica.com/lebanon_child_body_ripped_open.jpg
http://www.roytov.com/gaza/IsraeliAssassinationsGaza2009-16.jpg
http://kormexdesign.com/boycott/images/stories/israel_crimes_kabreet_egypty_90.jpg
http://alethonews.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/israeli-crimes.jpg?w=384&h=274

What did these innocent young children did?
With what reason on earth were they murdered?























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Reply #21 on: July 06, 2012, 07:34:16 pm
So... first you say that violence is bad yet you want to fight violence with ciolence.

Then you try to combat my post containing what you say is propaganda with even more propaganda yet you say its bad?

So much hypocrisy. Listen bud, I feel you, I understand that your people have gone through some hard times, but instead of blaming other people for your problems like you say Israel is, why not look at yourselves first? Everything you have claimed to be bad your own people do just as Israel does. The Middle East is a fucked up place of constant war and violence, and the only reason it happens is because neither side seems to understand an alternative to violence. War is War, and if you do not want war, do not provoke conflict. It is as simple as that, sure, you might not get your way, but at least your not letting innocent people die.



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Reply #22 on: July 06, 2012, 07:36:08 pm
I really don't mind the cartoons and everyone throwing in arguments in favor of their positions but please do this forum a favor and don't start with the ''all zions are evil'' ''all palestines are terrorist'' bullshit... 
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Reply #23 on: July 06, 2012, 07:49:04 pm
If you are really talking from an opened mind, you would easily realize Israel's disinformation-mass-media around the world.
you talk about media disinformation, yet you watch Al Jazeera and wholeheartedly believe everything they shit out is made out of gold.



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Reply #24 on: July 06, 2012, 08:00:38 pm
I really don't mind the cartoons and everyone throwing in arguments in favor of their positions but please do this forum a favor and don't start with the ''all zions are evil'' ''all palestines are terrorist'' bullshit... 

Zionists believe in one thing, that they are the chosen people by God, and the rest of peoples are their slaves.
They took my land, build settlements, killed my people, raped our women, arrested our young people..

But I do also believe that there are some good ones in them.


you talk about media disinformation, yet you watch Al Jazeera and wholeheartedly believe everything they shit out is made out of gold.

Mmm, provokes me when someone gets himself involved with something he has no any knowledge about..

In January 2011, demonstrations in Ramallah took a place by thousands of Palestinians who hate Al Jazeera and know well that Al Jazeera sometimes provides incorrect information about this conflict.

So no, Palestinians are open-minded people and don't believe whatever mass-medias say, like Al Jazeera.


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Reply #25 on: July 06, 2012, 09:01:29 pm
So, Eddie Murphy poisoned Arafat?



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Reply #26 on: July 06, 2012, 09:04:15 pm
Mmm, provokes me when someone gets himself involved with something he has no any knowledge about..

In January 2011, demonstrations in Ramallah took a place by thousands of Palestinians who hate Al Jazeera and know well that Al Jazeera sometimes provides incorrect information about this conflict.

So no, Palestinians are open-minded people and don't believe whatever mass-medias say, like Al Jazeera.
lol

You claim all Palestinians are open-minded people who don't believe every little thing their propaganda-infested news network, Al Jazeera, tells them. Now, using your logic, Palestinians would have reasons to doubt Al Jazeera's claim that the angry baneful Israelis once again show their evil ways by killing Arafat. I bet you'll go "hurrr it was polonium poisoning" because Al Jazeera said so.
I love how you say I have no knowledge about anything when all you believe in comes from following Islamist Facebook groups, liking some average Muhammad's shitty propaganda comics, posting them around and blaming everything on the evil Zionists.



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Reply #27 on: July 06, 2012, 09:30:38 pm
You claim all Palestinians are open-minded people who don't believe every little thing their propaganda-infested news network, Al Jazeera, tells them. Now, using your logic, Palestinians would have reasons to doubt Al Jazeera's claim that the angry baneful Israelis once again show their evil ways by killing Arafat. I bet you'll go "hurrr it was polonium poisoning" because Al Jazeera said so.

Once again, you proof that you have nothing to do here.
Since the day Arafat was killed, most of Palestinians were saying that Israel was able to get him poisoned by food during Muqataa' Blockade in 2002, but no one ever was sure about that (That was the story back then).
But today, 2012, Al Jazeera continued the story .. But not alone. An investigation lead by a group of international scientists confirmed that, with Al Jazeera to be responsible to announce it.

I love how you say I have no knowledge about anything when all you believe in comes from following Islamist Facebook groups, liking some average Muhammad's shitty propaganda comics, posting them around and blaming everything on the evil Zionists.

Yes, you are a knowledge-less person about this case.
I don't have to go to "Islamist FB Pages" to get info about my case, I live in this case, I live in Palestine, I'm a watcher in the 1st seat of this massacre.
And watch your mouth while you are talking about the holy prophet, Muhammed -peace be upon him-. Unfortunately, people like you who has lack of words to describe things use such foul language.



Have you ever knew any of that? No, but you are interested in putting your big nose everywhere.


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Reply #28 on: July 06, 2012, 09:41:32 pm
An investigation lead by a group of international scientists confirmed that, with Al Jazeera to be responsible to announce it.

So, your trying to say that Al-Jazeera did not just make up that they had a team of scientists? You say you are open minded, yet you believe everything this agency says....



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Reply #29 on: July 06, 2012, 09:49:25 pm
So, your trying to say that Al-Jazeera did not just make up that they had a team of scientists? You say you are open minded, yet you believe everything this agency says....

We do already know that he was poisoned in a way or another, we do not exactly care about the way it was done.
But we and many people around the world, know in our hearts the suspect.


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