Tests hint at possible Arafat poisoning

[Rami]

No, if you understood English and read what I posted I said if you accept that Israel control Palestine, your people WONT die. Yet you said you would refuse this deal, meaning you would rather your people die then agree to be controlled by Israel.

Yet again, you running from answering my question.

[SafetyMoose]

Yet again, you running from answering my question.

What fucking question? Your the one whos not even answering my basic question even when I repeat it to you. The only question you asked me I answered by repeating my previous one since you cant seem to read English.

Even now your avoiding the very question you quoted. Hypocrite.

[Rami]

What f**king question? Your the one whos not even answering my basic question even when I repeat it to you. The only question you asked me I answered by repeating my previous one since you cant seem to read English.

Even now your avoiding the very question you quoted. Hypocrite.

You need a serious help.

[SafetyMoose]

You need a serious help.

Still Avoiding my question

[Rami]

Still Avoiding my question

Oh god ..

Sir, I have answered your question, twice.

But if you still can't find the answer .. You shouldn't be using forums.

[SafetyMoose]

Oh god ..

Sir, I have answered your question, twice.

But if you still can't find the answer .. You shouldn't be using forums.

OK, So you agree that you would rather have your peoples women and children slaughtered then comply with Israel, OK, as long as we are on the same page about that. I thought you had changed your answer before by saying the question I had asked was different, but we can stick with the original answer you gave if you want, the one that makes you a murderer and proves the reason why your people will never succeed.

[Rami]

OK, So you agree that you would rather have your peoples women and children slaughtered then comply with Israel, OK, as long as we are on the same page about that. I thought you had changed your answer before by saying the question I had asked was different, but we can stick with the original answer you gave if you want, the one that makes you a murderer and proves the reason why your people will never succeed.

Your question is not even valid.
Why? I already explained twice.

West Bank & Gaza Strip are under Palestinian Authority control, a legal & official decision cannot be done about such thing.
It's not that simple to let Israel take over West Bank & Gaza Strip.

Unless they used ultimate force against we, the innocent civilians, and took over the remaining land of ours, which internationally belongs to Palestinians.

And not thrice.

[Gandalf]

Who said anything about universities?
http://www.jpost.com/MiddleEast/Article.aspx?id=221934

You did by telling you habe nothing in Gaza. I show that people there have everything they need to live a normal life.

If I could go back in time, I wouldn't refuse the 1967 UN offer.
So no, don't blame me, because this is senseless.

As long as you blame Israel and not your ancestors, I will blame you.

We were just out of the Second Intifada, do you have any idea how mad the people were? Yes they wanted to wipe out Israel so they choose Hammas (Weather if Hammas was able to do so or not, it was the only military power fighting Israel on land).

But people change.

I do not see any change. The second Intifada was created by Hamas, so they played you.

You have never proven me wrong, unless you think that you did.
For me, my opinions are based on facts. Facts that I witnessed.
But how did you get your facts? Internet? Media? Hmm .. Tell me about how honest they are.

Then show me any point you made I did not prove wrong.
Media are not honest, especially when they show the Palestine movies.

Huh? I do care about my people and country more than anything else.
But have you even read my post?

If I refuse getting my land which is West Bank right now (Which is under full Palestinian Authority control and can never enter such deal) I get my family killed? How does that even sound fair?

West Bank & Gaza Strip are supposed to be under full Palestinian Authority control according to Oslo conference in 1994, where that was signed between Israeli's and Palestinians.

Please .. Quit posting here .. In each post you proof how much knowledge you got about this case, Zero.

You never had a country. Get that in your head first. So you have no country to care about except the one you might get. Now how to get a country?
1. By force. For this you would need more than some citizens, as without external support they will never manage. So unless you find a country that has a stronger army as Israel and USA together you will not succeed. Go and shoot rockets, get squashed every 3 years or so. Israel happy, you unhappy.
2. By politics. For this you would need to ensure support as well, but its much easier. Show that you are not the ones attacking, show that you are not the ones breaking agreements.
Be peaceful and ask initially autonomy, without giving groups like Hamas the chance to get support for the idea that Israel should not exist. Show you want to live in peace, not to live without peace for others.

[Rami]

You did by telling you habe nothing in Gaza. I show that people there have everything they need to live a normal life.

I said I've seen destroyed ones, not "Have nothing in Gaza".

Show that you are not the ones attacking,

We were never the ones who attacks.
With what are we attacking and terrorizing? Stones? I see.

show that you are not the ones breaking agreements.

Israel broke uncountable temp-peace-agreements that Egypt helped both sides to sign (Hammas and What so called Israel), and each time, Israel was breaking them claiming that it Hammas is the one who broke it at first, and that what it spreads to the whole outsider world.

This will be my last reply to this discussion.

[Gandalf]

I said I've seen destroyed ones, not "Have nothing in Gaza".

By focusing on the destroyed ones you try to paint a picture of Gaza being nothing but ruins, similar to what many media attempt.

We were never the ones who attacks.
With what are we attacking and terrorizing? Stones? I see.

Yes you attack with stones and small rockets. If you think that is not an attack then I will throw a number of stones at you, and you should not feel attacked.

Israel broke uncountable temp-peace-agreements that Egypt helped both sides to sign (Hammas and What so called Israel), and each time, Israel was breaking them claiming that it Hammas is the one who broke it at first, and that what it spreads to the whole outsider world.

Perhaps they were right in their claim. Unless you feel that stones and small rockets do not count.

This will be my last reply to this discussion.

Good, as you refuse to listen to reason anyway.
By the way this is the second time you make such a statement.
Let's see if you can hold your word this time.
If not, one more chance Israel is right.

[Lionel Valdes]

So, Eddie Murphy poisoned Arafat?

No, you do not get to say that. Respect others, debate is the key not provoking.

-Void

Post Merge: July 08, 2012, 07:02:45 pm

Now as for your pity war.
Palestine was never a country. People living there were too lazy to form one, and neighbours considered it a worthless piece of desert. Only after the Israelians showed you can build cities and plant trees people got interest in the piece of desert and try to take it away.
People worked hard to build a country, to make the soil fertile, to build houses and roads.
And some lazy asses were sitting and looking, and became jealous since all they had were 3 camels and a goat. So they decided to shout they were there first and wanted their country.

  This sentence actually changed how I feel against Palestine.

[Squeak]

This sentence actually changed how I feel against Palestine.

If a people are happy how they live their lives, why should they have to conform to western standards of civilization? They were not in any race and were fine that way. It was not until a bunch of Zionists petitioned, using the holocaust as validation, to take land that they had no part of in 2000 years. Of course it was mutually beneficial since the United States would get a permanent outpost in the middle east.

[Jellyfish]

The entire conflict started when the current israelis captured the territory occupied by the palestinians. The current palestinians are currently struggling for their freedom. As many nations have done before them. It is shameful that America, which not only brought their independent country into existence through a revolution, but also claims to be sympathetic to the plight of the oppressed, not only supports the israelis but alsO scared off those willing to help.    @safetymoose : you claim that rami is blinded by his media, did u ever consider being blinded by yours. Rami lives in a warzone, and has firsthand experience of the situation. It is classic control, attempts to boost their economy, not different from what the americans faced and what washington fought for.

[SafetyMoose]

@Robert Dimaria : LMB.                                              .                                                    The entire conflict started when the current israelis captured the territory occupied by the palestinians. The current palestinians are currently struggling for their freedom. As many nations have done before them. It is shameful that America, which not only brought their independent country into existence through a revolution, but also claims to be sympathetic to the plight of the oppressed, not only supports the israelis but alsO scared off those willing to help.    @safetymoose : you claim that rami is blinded by his media, did u ever consider being blinded by yours. Rami lives in a warzone, and has firsthand experience of the situation. It is classic control, attempts to boost their economy, not different from what the americans faced and what washington fought for.

I would trust my news agencies over those of a small rebellious state any day.
You should brush up on your American History my friend, you will then find out that the US had a Deceleration of Independence in which the states voted on Independence. They did not have a revolution in the same sense as normally portrayed, as conflict only really started once the British arrived the take back Control. The Americans had every intention of resolving it peacefully, hens the declaration if Independence. You make it seem as though they started a war using violence, rather then using political debate and democratic process first. Palestine does not operate in the same manner, using violence as an attempt to get independence instead of using diplomacy first.

[yoske]

These news agencies?

Fox News lies about riots in Russia

Democracy and diplomacy like in Afghanistan? Iraq? Libya? I understand what are you talking about but USA teaching us on democracy? Really?