Police officer shot dead in street

[Gandalf]

Drawing a weapon on someone or even shooting them does not mean they die. You seem to have the mindset that all guns do are kill people. Yes, there intended purpose is as a weapon to cause harm, but you can't seem to see past the violence and understand the self defence aspect. What, if this was the 1700 would you be against people owning swords? I have never had to kill someone, simply drawing a weapon on them makes them stop which is why guns are needed to keep the peace and to defend ones family and property.

Now, Go ahead and answer my question, or you can keep avoiding it and continue proving my point that you know jack shit about this topic.
Post Merge: July 17, 2012, 02:22:10 amThis is the point every realistic person in this thread is trying to point out, but certain people here seem to be confused and think every gun owner is a trigger happy redneck. Morons.

Wel Mr Trigger Happy Redneck, I will answer the question as soon as you will provide me with what I asked. However as I said, you are not going to believe my answer anyway.

[Gandalf]

Never? But you still haven't answered Safetymoose's question, have you?

So tell me how would you know that if there is a man with a gun standing in your room, you will even be able to get yours and use it?

[SafetyMoose]

Wel Mr Trigger Happy Redneck, I will answer the question as soon as you will provide me with what I asked. However as I said, you are not going to believe my answer anyway.

>implying I just have every statistic you want sitting on my desktop.

Do i look like a f**king library? or am I now supposed to go out and find every statistic known to man simply because you ask for it? Now how about you stop avoiding my question with your little excuse of I wont believe you and start talking, maybe even explain why you have such a huge hate towards guns and gun owners? Stop going around in circles and answer the very simple question I provided you. or maybe you don;t know what you would do, maybe your wife and kids would get raped because you failed to act.. not my problem what happens to them in the end though.

[[SE]Dr_Pepper27]

So tell me how would you know that if there is a man with a gun standing in your room, you will even be able to get yours and use it?

You should be able to. More than likely, I wouldn't allow someone to get close to my room.

[SafetyMoose]

So tell me how would you know that if there is a man with a gun standing in your room, you will even be able to get yours and use it?

What, you think im going to own a gun and not keep it with me? 

[Gandalf]

>implying I just have every statistic you want sitting on my desktop.

Do i look like a f**king library? or am I now supposed to go out and find every statistic known to man simply because you ask for it? Now how about you stop avoiding my question with your little excuse of I wont believe you and start talking, maybe even explain why you have such a huge hate towards guns and gun owners? Stop going around in circles and answer the very simple question I provided you. or maybe you don;t know what you would do, maybe your wife and kids would get raped because you failed to act.. not my problem what happens to them in the end though.

Ok so you admit that there are ZERO statistics that prove guns avoid crime. Thanks you.
As for your question, he would be disarmed and neutralized without the usage of a gun.

[Gandalf]

You should be able to. More than likely, I wouldn't allow someone to get close to my room.

Muahahaha.... os at might you wake up and there is a guy standing in your room with a gun... and you tell him to wait a second while you get yours from the safe....

[Gandalf]

What, you think im going to own a gun and not keep it with me? 

So you will let it lying where your kids can find it and pull the trigger on each other by accident. Great.

[SafetyMoose]

Ok so you admit that there are ZERO statistics that prove guns avoid crime. Thanks you.

I provided a very nice booklet of referenced statistics relating to guns preventing crime. so why don;t you try again and this time tone down on being a prick?

As for your question, he would be disarmed and neutralized without the usage of a gun.

And how would you do that, throw your pillow at him?  :roll:


Nice to know the owner of this community can't even have a half decent argument without being a child and trying to twist peoples words out of context to make himself look smart.

Post Merge: July 17, 2012, 09:53:57 am

So you will let it lying where your kids can find it and pull the trigger on each other by accident. Great.

You trying to say kids are going to unclip a gun from a holster on my waist without me knowing? Wow your stupid.

[Mario_Rinna]

What, you think im going to own a gun and not keep it with me? 

Honey, if I walk into your house with my favourite AK, you will be dead before you can shit your pants, even if you sleep with a bazooka.

It doesn't matter, if you have a gun or not, when you are already dead.

[SafetyMoose]

Honey, if I walk into your house with my favourite AK, you will be dead before you can shit your pants, even if you sleep with a bazooka.

It doesn't matter, if you have a gun or not, when you are already dead.

Maybe the case, but there is always the chance I hear/ know your coming. if i'm going to die any ways in that one situation what does having or not having a gun really matter?

What a flawed attempt at an argument.

[Mario_Rinna]

Maybe the case, but there is always the chance I hear/ know your coming. if i'm going to die any ways in that one situation what does having or not having a gun really matter?

What a flawed attempt at an argument.

The point is that your pew-pew is pointless when you are against someone with skill. And when the wannabe-killer is a retard, you can take him out even without a gun.

And FYI, I have no interest in arguing with you.

[Gandalf]

I provided a very nice booklet of referenced statistics relating to guns preventing crime. so why don;t you try again and this time tone down on being a prick?

I aksed you:
- proof that gun violence is lower in the USA as in Europe
- statistics on opinions of felons between 1973 and 2000 to match your research.
All you can provide is a booklet by the Gun Industry that does not provide this and the statement you are not a f8cking library.
Further I showed you a graphic that clearly indicated the increase in weapons equals the increase in population, and an increase in gun control showed a clear decrease in violence. You ignored this.

And how would you do that, throw your pillow at him?  :roll:

It would be a better action as to offer my wife while I get my gun from the safe as what would have to be your action.

Nice to know the owner of this community can't even have a half decent argument without being a child and trying to twist peoples words out of context to make himself look smart.

Act like an idiot, get answered as one.

Post Merge: July 17, 2012, 09:53:57 amYou trying to say kids are going to unclip a gun from a holster on my waist without me knowing? Wow your stupid.

You sleep with a holstered gun? your wife will love it.

[[Rstar]Paul]

You sleep with a holstered gun? your wife will love it.

 

[SafetyMoose]

Act like an idiot, get answered as one.

The same can be said from my side as well

You sleep with a holstered gun? your wife will love it.

Girls who like guns are my kind of girls  :cool: